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flat.. pt conception buoy at 4ft 6seconds.. light west wind but it doesn't really matter as there ain't no waves to ride.. I'm actually psychologically OK with the flatness as i've come down with a cold.. sucks.. but.. would suck much harder if conditions were on fire.. soo.. nothing much else to report.. y'all know about the windswell that's supposed to arrive this weekend and the super-weak South groundswell.. hopefully we'll be feelin' that shit come tomorrow.. I'll be driving up the coast on sunday and hope to score a session at Salmon creek or some such.. we'll see what pans out. I'm hoping to finally surf a rocky mendo spot next week as i've checked it a bunch but never surfed it..

"pump up the jam, pump it up!"

"me and julio down by the schoolyard"

Doin' the butt... sexy sexy... ain't nothin' wrong.. if you wanna do the butt.. ALL NIGHT LONG!!"

"top jimmy, He's the king"

"I'm building you a pyramid
With limestone blocks so large
I drag them from the mountain top
You'll need a two car garage...

Cause it's the ocean flowing in our veins
That it's the salt that's in our tears
Cause we could have come so very far
In at least as many years

Take the highway through the Great Divide"

"Last year holloween fell on the weekend.. me and ghetto boys are trick-or-treatin'.. robbin' little kids for bags.. until an old-man got behind our ass."

"Ohhh.. we're half way there.. OOHH OHH.. livin' on a prayer!! take my hand.. and we'll make it i swear!! ohh ohh . livin' on a prayer!!"

"Super man came down to me
he said you rock so naturally
i said now that you've learned to dig
let me tell you why
i'm so for real
i'm cosmo dee from outer space
i came to rock the human race
i do it right cause i can't do it wrong
that's why the whole world is singin' this song..

jam on it.. jam on it.. ja ja ja ja ja ja jam on it

wicky wicky wicky wicky"

e

"slappy" garcia interview

wonder if there are waves here?

bells beach feelin' the love
wow

more bells
wow

somewhere north of here.. last weekend - (thanks cloude for the pics)
nice

nice

nice


heard a great old one on the way to work today, reminded me of hanging out in grade school trying to breakdance like all the "cool kids" in high school...oh man...remember the big fat neon shoe laces? anybody have the breakin' soundtrack, or breakin 2 electric boogaloo? anybody see the documentary 'scratch' (that's actually a new vid, not an 80s thing)

"You Kango, I don't think that you're dense
Buy you went about the matter with no experience
You should know, she doesn't need a guy like you
She needs a guy like me, with a high IQ
And she'll take to my rap, cause my rap's the best
The educated rapper MD will never fess"

ahhh, nothing brings back memories like a little UTFO "roxanne roxanne"

anyways, hope all the niceness crew gets some this weekend. i've got an ooooollldddd friend flying in for the weekend, we're headed up to tahoe. oh well, i left my wetsuit in oregon anyways, but from what i hear it's almost trunkable out there!

anyways, SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!!!

Posted by: j at August 8, 2003 10:49 AM

cloude - good on ya. I have some interesting hiking tales about that place.

I am sticking to my guns on the wave forecast. There WILL be surfable swell here tomorrow morning, don't know about winds, could be iffy. But, swell should be 4-5 ft 11-12 sec from 300 deg. It will be a one day only swell. Get on it while it is good, Sunday will be MUCH smaller, maybe flat again. Also, Saturday afternoon should bring WINDS again.

Posted by: blakestah at August 8, 2003 11:44 AM

Mid OB: News flash, week of 4/8/03 ; A tanker hauling newly mined Wave Repellent™ foundered off the coast of Northern California and started leaking it's cargo into the surrounding waters. The entire Norcal coastline and it's surfers have been severely affected by this vile substance. However, one OB local escaped with only a mild coating and paddled a SHORTBOARD the morning of August 8th into the WR™ polluted waters. This hardy trooper prevailed against these difficult times and pulled some miraculous tiny rides and even some turns - a true testament to the indomitability of the human spirit. Hood's off to you, morning OB surfer!

Yes it's very very very flat.

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 8, 2003 11:47 AM

not quite flat in this pic (thanks bandini for posting)

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 11:54 AM

Hey - I've met this guy - he rips!

Posted by: blakestah at August 8, 2003 12:01 PM

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 12:01 PM

I met a whale once but he didn't have much to say.

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 12:17 PM

The Cloude Pics

If this is the spot I think it is.....

That spot only (truly) works on Southwest or West/Southwest,....and then it needs a middle tide. Very finnicky, but when it's on it's a real point break. The rock on the south part is frequented by many, but I prefer the rock reef on northern end. Long "soft" rights. One of the pictures is in front of the rock, but the others are at the point.

There was a tremendous landslide in the mid 90s (El Nino) that made the hike down very sketchy, but didn't dampen the potential for crowds...when it's good. That landslide was a textbook geological event, that must have been amazing to witness (seen by only a few deer, bobcat, and some birds of prey).

good stuff!

cheers,
Jack

Posted by: Jack at August 8, 2003 12:31 PM

re. m*** c****...
After the whole spot naming debate in the last little while, I'm really surprised that you're still doing it E...
Don't get me wrong... I love how you bring the stoke & you seem all about positivity, but I think you can do all that without naming spots...
just my 5c...come on back :)
Cam

Posted by: cam at August 8, 2003 12:42 PM

speaking of getaways... a friend of mine is moving to the north shore in a few weeks and will be starting from scratch in getting setup, so I thought I'd see if any of you heads had connections there or info. (apartment/room rental for a few weeks/months, bartending gigs, etc..) I have the feeling some of you have lived there? THANKS

Posted by: bertrand at August 8, 2003 12:45 PM

Please mention nothing more of the spot in cloude's pics. Not that it is worth going there 99% of the time but I really don't want to see names or hints creating more hype about a spot that rewards few and does it infrequently.

Posted by: cbarney at August 8, 2003 01:42 PM

first of all, shoutouts to j, because i would not have understood his last line but for watching bill and ted's excellent adventure in the car driving home from maine this week. party on, dude.

secondly, and lastly, a friendly reminder for all of you enjoying the surf in NorCal (when it's not flat): Next time you are catching waves at OB, be grateful that some lifeguard isn't trying to keep you within a 10 yard expanse marked off by flags on the beach, while you watch beautiful peaky peaks rise and throw outside the 'surfer's area'. I got busted yesterday for chasing peaks outside the boundaries... lifeguard paddled out on a paddle board and basically guarded the edge of the zone we were allowed to surf. at least the countless grommets of summertime (granted, some of whom RIP!) appreciated my Rebel attitude. and lifeguards go off duty at 5pm.

woooord. so enjoy your Cali freedom, and have a great weekend everyone!

Posted by: jake at August 8, 2003 01:55 PM

sorry about the spot naming cam.. in all fairness, though.. Moat Creek is mentioned in every guide book and also all over the internet.. i've checked it probably 6 or 7 times and i've NEVER seen it working.. maybe i've just been unlucky.. but.. i feel ok naming it. sorry if that's your spot and you've been feeling increased crowds there?? have you? is it even a real wave? i've seen the spot south of there working but never M.C. Well.. i watched a few mellow rights peel along but there were literally rocks sticking out all over the place.. making it pretty darned sketchy to ride.. maybe on really slow waves with a longboard or something? anyway.. i love the beach there.. i usually just end up beach-combing and checking the tide pools.. sorry if you were bummed to see that spot named in the report.. i'll try to refrain more..

cbarney.. i've checked that spot about 15 times and only hit it twice.. too bad it's about 4 hours north of here.. and whitey is IN THE HOUSE!"

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 02:12 PM

The spot in Cloude's picks was my favourite Secret spot of my early surfing career.
I think that it has remained a 'secret spot' mostly because it is really nothing special wave wise.
It is a nice break, there is the longboard peak at the point and the short board peak at the rock.
But if it is epic there, it is epic lots of other places.

Still seeing those pictures on this site did not make me happy. I guess old habits die hard.

Posted by: Friend #1 at August 8, 2003 02:22 PM

d'oh.. i guess i'm the arsehole!! sorry about that.. .. but.. how can a few pics of a wave with no mention of the location other than "north of here" be a threat?

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 02:30 PM

All this talk about Cloude, maybe it's already been posted here -- if so, forgive the repeat -- well, seems Cloude is gonna be a poppa! Congrats due to him and his beautiful wife.

Posted by: robme at August 8, 2003 02:44 PM

thanks dr. i.b. nude.. though.. i apologize for stepping on people's toes today.. that sucks.. people like friend #1 and cbarney have every right to be bummed.. i think i just might shut the fuck up about any spot-related mention.. my skin is too thin to have people harshing and feelin' angry and upset.. i remember friend #1 posting some purdy pics of ridiculous Ocean Beach on the surfer mag discussion forum.. probably a few thousand pairs of surfer's eyes saw those pics.. soo.. did that create more crowds at OB the next week? dunno.. all i know is that i thought those pics were sick and they stoked me on surfing and just appealled to my aesthetic sensibilities.. i'm a sucker for a picture of a beautiful wave..

but from now on i will totally refrain from ever mentioning a spot-name or posting pics of any wave in california other than lindy/ob/lane.. i can't take the heat and i don't want to.. it's not worth making people bummed out.

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 02:47 PM

E, I have always said you were an arsehole, you just never listened....

I surfed M_ B_ _ _tub last night. It is a secret spot too! Only ducks and other natural creatures in the area.

Happy Friday y'all. Everyone have a good weekend and try to hang on to the stoke that last week provided until the next rows of stoke come washing ashore making all the secret and non-secret spots light up to provide glide-o-plenty.

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 02:48 PM

E, if you don't feel inclined to post 'em, I will! This is getting out of hand. I think this has all been covered by the personalities that grace this here site.

Rule oneself, don't rule others!

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 02:51 PM

Damn it Christian!!! That was the one I was trying to hold onto.

And yes, I can see both Airport Lefts and Airport Rights out my office window so I am a local there. Not to mention Oyster Point Marina Bowls. You should have seen it last week - absolutely spitting!!!!

HA!

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 02:59 PM

kaiser if you ever mention M*B***tub again, much less post a picture there's gonna be a throwdown. That place is already crowded enough with people splashin around, dirtying up the place...and for the diehards checkin it regularly (me included), we just don't need that kind of exposure. I really only enjoy that place when it's just me and buddy or you in there anyway.

Classic post kaiser.

Posted by: jdz at August 8, 2003 03:01 PM

e i don't think stopping photos is enough. you gotta stop letting on that surfing is actually FUN; from now on you must taper off of this ridiculously high stoke level you seem to attain. just keep up the fog, the wind, the brutal paddles, the sharks, all that good stuff ... everyone can go home happy...

and do i have to keep telling you guys that golden gate fields blows doors on those smidgenly airport mushburgers?

Posted by: paul b at August 8, 2003 03:22 PM

Kaiser - classic post.

all - check this
http://forum.surfermag.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=044406

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http://www.indiesexplorer.com/advertisers/indies/indies1.htm

Posted by: j at August 8, 2003 03:27 PM

e - it is all about selling out the search.

No one has a problem if someone like you, e, drives around a lot checking spots, and finds a spot that is firing. You invested, you scored.

If, however, you tell hundreds of people how you invested and scored, those people can score with no investment. Maybe you like that, but I guarantee that everyone else who is busy investing their time and effort into nailing surf spots is not too psyched about it.

Keep the search alive. Let people make their own investment into finding surf spots. And, let those who are already heavily invested reap the benefits. The search is an integral part of surfing, and ppl like Rank Byte should be drawn and quartered for their violations. When you go someplace new, grab a map and a compass. Watch the swells come in, and invest.

To recap - it is not really directly about crowding - it is about short-circuiting someone else's long and hard investment into finding good uncrowded surf. Really, it is about flushing their investment down the drain.

Posted by: blakestah at August 8, 2003 03:30 PM

OMG I just spit out my drink, laughing.

Kaiser, I hear M_ B_ _ _tub is the only surf break in the world where you can rock back and forth on your board and create epic waves.! Bring on the pics ;)

Mid OB: now it's blowsy too. Gonna surf M_ S_ _ _ er , a mysto point break so small only one person at a time can be there. And you can't use a surfboard, it only works with a sponge.

e- you rock ..the rest of yoos....too funny! ! Super stoke...

Posted by: s.s. sharkchum at August 8, 2003 03:37 PM

OMG I just spit out my drink, laughing.

Kaiser, I hear M_ B_ _ _tub is the only surf break in the world where you can rock back and forth on your board and create epic waves.! Bring on the pics ;)

Mid OB: now it's blowsy too. Gonna surf M_ S_ _ _ er , a mysto point break so small only one person at a time can be there. And you can't use a surfboard, it only works with a sponge.

e- you rock ..the rest of yoos....too funny! ! Super stoke...

Posted by: s.s. sharkchum at August 8, 2003 03:43 PM

Blakestah, out of all seriousness, let me then ask you this: Is this not the same then as stating facts about OB to someone that might live in Hayward or Berkeley or the like looking for some waves? I think its time to get that malty beverage....

I tend to agree with you that if you explore you will find and that is the best way to go about it. "Don't use the crutch of others..." Check the PacWaveRider reports, it always say Lindy is 3-4 and fair when you and I know that the 15 mph NW winds that were howling last night say otherwise. If you use "that" crutch, you will get skunked. You deserve to get skunked.

But let's be rationale about this and good natured. If you make the investment, you should be rewarded. But I hope no one harps on my ass for the times when I drive longer then anyone (which is most of the time), get skunked and call my surf bros (on my cell phone of course) for a little "advice". Or if I take a picture where I stopped along the road 4 hours from my home, scored, and shared it with friends.

This is human nature and that can't be argued.

More stoke, less vibe!!! Seriously, M_ B_ _ _tub was going off....

JDZ, nice addition man!! Well done.

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 03:44 PM

I dont' think blakestah is too curmudgeonly, he has a point -- I mean, the problem with guests is they often don't know how to behave -- unfortunately it's the American way. And if you get something for free, you often treat it with less respect. I was once in Lyons, where I went to see the Cramps, you youngsters may not have heard of them. I was with a very good friend from Davis. We were all tripping like crazy, and she proceeds to just empty the contents of her cooler on the sidewalk. I was like "What are you doing?" She replied "It's just a city." A little arab/french family watched us from their doorway but didn't say anything. They lived there. Presumably invested in the place with their day to day life, but for us, it was just the venue of a rock and roll show, where thousands of people passed through every night, and it didn't merit any particular care. I think blakestah is correct in that if you go to some trouble to find something, you cherish it a little more. The whole world could use a little cherish right now, french/arab ghetto or over utilized Moat. I'm not saying you shouldn't use names. I'm just saying use them with care. The problem with the web is not with your actions per se, but with the actions of your audience. You don't know who your audience is, so are you willing to take responsibility for their actions? You do know who your audience is when you call them on the cell...

Posted by: robme at August 8, 2003 03:55 PM

those are good points blakestah.. i hear you.. i just didn't think i was guilty of any infraction today. i didn't tell anyone how i "invested and scored." just showed some random wave pics and said, "north of here". Before people chimed in i think that many readers probably assumed oregon or vancouver.. i mean.. i don't know what to say! i think that some people might be a little too sensitive about the reality of spot exposure and population dynamics.. it's one thing to name a spot and give directions and swell/tide/wind info.. it's another to post some pics that say "earth" for their location.

but.. i really hate to ruffle feathers and get people all bummed.. soo.. no more spot names or pics of california waves..

but blakestah.. aren't you a bit guilty yourself of short-cicuiting the investment of seasoned surfers? you basically educate the masses about swells and winds and weather.. i mean.. think about all those east-bay people that only come to the beach when blakestah predicts a swell..

as i was beginning to surf seriously in the bay area i used (and continue to use) your site to make decisions about where i'd surf and when i'd drive somewhere, etc.. your site acted as a tool within my search. other surfers where probably pissed when i showed up at the spot they had invested in.. simply because i read the buoy/tide/wind/pressure info on your site and made some easy decisions..

anyhooo..

the weekend is almost here!!!! hope everybody finds waves and gives good love to their lovers and friends and dogs and moms and dads and kids!!

remember how lucky we are to be healthy and surf and live in san francisco and rock out and enjoy ourselves..

throw some smiles at randoms this weekend..

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 03:59 PM

Early am session today at the Petaluma rivermouth... absolutley going off.
I didn't know waves went that far up the bay..
totally uncrowded, just me and a few egrets.
Oh, BTW I heard Mcnear's beach pier will be firing all weekend...I can't wait.
see you there surfcats....

have fun in mendo e.
peaceout.

Posted by: eightwest at August 8, 2003 04:00 PM

good points robme.. i guess my offhanded mention of moat was a bit irresponsible.. i'll remove it from the site post haste..

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 04:04 PM

Poor ol' e.

He just wants to spread the stoke, and can't help but spilling some ashes on folks sometimes.

That last photo is what did it. Thanks for removing it.

Now I am damning myself. Everyone reading this will remember that picture from previous uploading and they will then know the glory of that spot.

Repost it please-- yeah that will throw them off.

Wait No! First delete this post telling you to repost it, then repost it.

Tell everyone how it is actually located in the channel islands too.

Cuba?

Posted by: Friend #1 at August 8, 2003 04:09 PM

My post was not so much about that break E mentioned as the naming of breaks in general & not just by E...
It's a fair point that Bank Wright mentioned that particular wave in his book, which I obviously haven't read.
However, no-one is going to argue with the fact that surfing's populartity has changed since 1973, with differential impacts..
I've read every one of the posts on this site & I admire the stoke that E & this community brings. I have never met him but I'm sure that he brings respect & good vibes whenever he hits the water. The last thing I want to do is impact the positivity that he & others pass on thru niceness.
The thing is that this site has a lot of people checking it & it does create trends, one example being the change in attendance at that very yellow sanded break recently.
Also it's covered by search engines & some of the only surfing related references to certain Norcal spots are on this site.
E is also right in saying a picture of a wave is a great thing & a stoke inducing experience but part of what is great about surfing is also the search of unknown or semi unknown territory.
I think there's a difference between (a)showing a great image & (b)showing off that you know a particular spot by giving details, when it's in a public forum.
The picture today of the local wave was indeed inspiring but I don't think it increased anyone's stoke to give more hints as to it's location... maybe I'm wrong.
I think we have to accept some responsiblity as a community of surfers in a noticeboard who's readership is growing & I think one of these responsibilities is to leave explicit naming of less well known spots off the common discussion.
Let me know if you think different
Cam

ps I have a map of Kaisers bath...

Posted by: cam at August 8, 2003 04:11 PM

gracious! i didn't mean to be such a heavy!

Posted by: robme at August 8, 2003 04:11 PM

To tell you the truth, e, I've thought about not forecasting for a long time for those exact reasons. But I get nothing but love from the readers, so I sorta figure I am on OK ground. For some reasons surfers do not conceptualize reading buoys as part of the search, whereas driving is. It's not completely rational. I stay FAR away from naming spots, but try to nail the swell size/period/winds to the ground. I can understand very clearly from your perspective what it is like to have people appreciate and not appreciate your work.

But I'm going to start sticking to forecasting bigger days, and let the head high and under pass by. It's just too ugly when it is under head high. You'll notice this, I will merely state decent small rideable day until it gets well overhead.

And, btw, don't forget, I truly appreciate your work. Feel some love, smoke some green, and bomb on the Sector 9 this afternoon.

Posted by: blakestah at August 8, 2003 04:15 PM

at first this was deja vu...then it was hilarious...then heavy...then hilarious...then heavy again...lots of philosophical jockeying...and now there seems to be a peace of sorts. daaaaamn, we all need to get outside!!! personally, i blame the lack of surf more than the mention of the location with that photo. when the waves are more abundant, things feel less scarce...know what i mean?

see you nutters in the water.

(and if i'm the random who catches one of those smiles, i'll be stoked. rell sunn has me completely inspired...later!)

Posted by: friendly at August 8, 2003 04:16 PM

scored an epic session last night at pier 23...shot the pier, kicked out, and my bros threw me a basket of fry's for the paddle back out...all while this awesome salsa band was playing, it was sweet, all these sexy latina girls checking me out, i still smell like boats though...and if those are picture's of moat island or whatever going off y'all can keep it...(im sure it was fun that day though)...i hear san quentin and Pac Bell point were going off during that south as well..SSHHHHH...he he...have fun up north E!! and have a good weekend y'all hope too see you in the water...

Posted by: at August 8, 2003 04:25 PM

oops i wrote that..and on another note..
yo Kangol.
ya whatsup girl?
im the real roxanne and ill rock your world.
but your all messed up
ya you say that,
cause i wouldnt give a guy like you no rap?

utfo...one of my first tapes ever purchased..that and howard jones...

Posted by: bagel at August 8, 2003 04:29 PM

did you meet him at the beach?

hells no, in the middle of december when its 20 below?


(sorry)

Posted by: bagel at August 8, 2003 04:36 PM

This spot naming nonsense is getting out of hand.

OB is ok, but don't mention a street. Lesbo Bar is totally fair game because it sucks even when it's good. "Yellow sand" beach is off limits cause it's only good sometimes, even though a hundred surfers check it every day. No pics even without names....?

I say be glad E has some sensitivity to the issue and let him do his thing!

Posted by: RC at August 8, 2003 04:50 PM

thanks for the super-stoke vibes friendly and bagel and kaiser and jdz and blakestah and everybody!! ..

cam and blakestah and friend#1.. thanks for voicing your opinions while at the same time stayin' mellow and reasonable. we all feel passionate about the waves and i appreciate you guys keeping a cool head when blabbermouths like me spout off irresponsibly..

my mention of mc this morning was lame.. sorry about that.

I have so much fun doing this report.. and you all have an impact and influence on how it's done and what gets said.. I think it's pretty easy to continue speadin' the good vibes without stepping on people's toes..

on that note... keep on keepin on!!

i think that this was one of the original "search" pics

hopefully this will be my view up in mendo next week

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 04:55 PM

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 04:59 PM

e - request: can you can stop posting pics of ANY surf anywhere, not just california?

maybe this could be a forum for discussing golf? i can't wait to see e's daily posts on how he "walked thru the fields of lush green, it's morning dew spilling it's moist goodness on his shoes every step as if...." (ok, so i'm not a writer like e)

or old school hip hop forum? would love to hear his poetic writing about clutching the mic and lacing up shell toes (btw, bagel, nice, i believe a little roxanne's revenge)

actually, i still believe e is phD student and this whole forum is just a sociological study. you'll notice how e periodically introduces potentially controversial variables (in this case identifying sites) into his posts. i believe he's studying how the introduction of certain variables affects the social behavior and interactions of the group. damn, e, you had us going.

so, anyways, yeah, whatever.

Posted by: j at August 8, 2003 05:00 PM

not to try and milk too much out of a good joke but what if pier 30 was pumping tonight for a sunset sesh as bjork takes the stage? shooting the piles to "big time sensuality"? ahhhhh. well i'll be there on dry land anyways...

remember reading something in surfer once about a guy surfing perfect ventura with jerry & the boys rocking "scarlet begonias" on shore...not sure what this venue was but how cool would that be...

Posted by: paul b at August 8, 2003 05:00 PM

Posted by: e at August 8, 2003 05:03 PM

ok, so just saw that pic you posted saying hopefully your mendo poster. we came around the bend last weekend at like 12:30, driving from the airport to the beach, two biiiiig farkin' elk chillin half in the road, half on the side munchin' some vittles of some sort. HUGE antlers, i swear their asses were above the roof racks these things were so big! fortunately the brakes were working on the 'buru.

Posted by: j at August 8, 2003 05:06 PM

that would be ventura fairgrounds(dead show)..verry possible as c street is a huge point..right in front of there...sorry ventura locals...

Posted by: bagel at August 8, 2003 05:08 PM

Secret Spot Hey? That's FRICKIN West Marin!!
You're all bunch of babies. My spot, search for yourself!!! WA, Wa, Wa. Here is your pacifiyer.
The Internet is here folks. And it Ain't going away!
And I'm sorry but if E's going to name a spot so be it.
What's left anyways?
Ya there are some spots "you" may think of being secret but I'll tell you, me and the boys spent many summers back in'89 searching the up and down the coast for surf. And back then there was no internet.
There's nothing sacred anymore in this world, No respect for others. It's just sad!!
Why do we surf?
To be better than you? Maybe.
But for me sharing good waves with others who are just as stoked. And I don't care if you rip or suck, as long as you TRY! That's what counts.
And yes if the waves are thick and dumping and you're learning DONT SURF HERE OR THERE!!
There is no Lifeguard on DUTY!!
Try BOlinas or Pacifica.
Ya that's Pacifica its on the Map.
Its a perfcet fun wave everyday 365 days a year.
Go there Kids.
Remember winter is approaching and these "crowds" will diminish and you'll be out b y you're self going " Hey where is ANYONE?"

Keep up the good work E.
Sorry that it's getting out of hand.

Posted by: pixel pete at August 8, 2003 05:26 PM

Well that beats me, cuz I only spent one summer in 89 looking for them.

Posted by: robme at August 8, 2003 05:52 PM

j, you are on fire today. first san dimas, then the golf club. nicely done!

Posted by: friendly at August 8, 2003 05:54 PM

Let me repeat, one more time.

Saturday morning. Get some. Don't wait for the afternoon. Don't wait till Sunday. Saturday morning is the ray of hope. Don't wait for some south. Get some Saturday morning. You've been notified. I recommend all of you go to Linda Mar - it should be shoulder to head high there. Those of you who don't go to Linda Mar, I recommend Steamer Lane.

And don't worry about flatness. You should see SoCal right now.

Posted by: blakestah at August 8, 2003 06:28 PM

Great wrap up of banter today folks! 3 days of flatness will do that to ya.

Blakestah, thanks for the recommendations. I look for some little green men at the beach. If I don't score tomorrow, I won't call anyone on my cell since I think I will be heading back to my secret spot that Cam claims he has a "map" of. I freakin hope not cause you might know more about me then you would ever want to know!

Homies, go get some manana.

Posted by: Kaiser at August 8, 2003 06:56 PM

Blakestah - what about the investment people make reading through 25 posts a day? In some ways this is a surf community for SF - and part of the search has always been learning by hearing what other people experience. Which is not to say there isn't a certain etiquette that needs to be respected - but collecting bits of information and piecing them all together as you build up your ability to know when it might be good out - isn't that what it's all about?

And E - please, please don't criticize blakestah's forecasts. What are you thinking - do you want him to stop?!?! I still remember a perfect afternoon session a year ago where I blew out of work at about 3:00 because of a forecast for a short burst of swell. I definitely agree that the swell forecast should get nothing but rave reviews. (and I like this site a lot too E)

It's almost fall, thank god.

Posted by: Steve at August 8, 2003 07:43 PM

Just got back from the first show of "Step Into Liquid" here on Oahu. The film rocks... there was over 100 hours of footage they cut down into 1 hr 45 min. It was a great movie mixing big wave tow-ins and funny travel stories. A must see! Just bummed there's no surf on the south shore right now. Hope you all get some tomorrow. We are supposed to get a small bump from the south in the morning, but the trades are ripping things up. Yes, even paradise sometimes has marginal conditions.

Posted by: bagus at August 8, 2003 08:25 PM

Wow - swell peaked at 4ft 10sec in the middle of the night - for about 3-4 hours only. Weak.

I'm about ready for fall, too. Flatness pervades.

Posted by: blakestah at August 9, 2003 05:22 AM

okay, sorry to arrive to the party late, but i hope a few read this. one of the ironic points from the photos that were posted somewhere north of here, is that it looks WAY better than it was in the photos, i didn't even get one decent ride. not that there weren't any, but the waves in the photos just looked nice from above and that's why i took them and e shared them.

now posting a spot without a name, it seems in our circumstances here, the only threat of migration is those who already know the spot. one of the reasons this spot doesn't get all that crowded, but it can, is because it's fickle as hell and when it's good, the whole damn coast is also firing. i had a good friend who scored is so good one day, he checked it religously for a year, probably close to daily, well it was never as good as it was that day. i was surfing a spot about 3 years ago that if i mentioned it, nobody who give a rats ass because it seldom has a good wave, but it was firing and a guy who had lived there ten years hadn't seen it do that in that part of the beach. that was one of the best sessions of my surf career.

i will also mention, i refuse to surf this spot alone due to the whitey factor. i know most of you won't give a shit about this, but i was in the water during the most recent attack at bolinas last year and being that close is a serious reality check.

ps: now if the dude who elbowed the hole in my board at your favorite SM secret spot shows up the next time my super fickle favorite spot is firing...

e, welcome to surf journalism. you'r doing a great job.

peace,
-c

Posted by: cloude at August 9, 2003 11:33 PM

even jersey folks are mellower than friend #1

Posted by: kus at August 10, 2003 07:45 AM

Just want to give you props E for quoting Phish. Good man.

JW

Posted by: JW at August 11, 2003 08:57 AM

i want to NOT give props to the asshole(s) who burgled my car at the secret south spot on sunday morning.

i will take a piece of the blame, as whoever did this must have watched me hide my key. i am a foolish, trusting soul. but i hope these jerks catch the juju coming their way. and i hope the rest of you have no such experiences when attempting to scrape up residue windswell. (blakestah, i should have listened...how many times have you heard that, i wonder? saturday am was it.) anyway: whoever did this was idiotic enough to riff through everything and hide some of the "valuables" that were inside...so we found most of what we originally thought was stolen. so cool, whoever did this...such a creative mofo. grr.

the best part: i was coming back to the lot with a broken board. the tail snapped off my stewart in what can only be described as a complete fluke. so already the day was going well.

saving grace: the board was less than a year old...and i sent in the $20 for their one-year insurance policy. so it'll be replaced for free....probably this week...otherwise this whole post would be as pissy as the first half. i'm feeling mighty, mighty grateful for that policy right now...

thanks to wise for taking such good care of me sunday afternoon. and watch your stuff in smc...assholes are on the loose.

Posted by: friendly at August 11, 2003 10:40 AM

Mid OB: Welll...I don't know, seeing how I'm not there. Temp. marooned in South Bay. Totally STOKED on surfing a great new spot - Point Intestinal Flu, a rarely rarely vistited locale ( at least by me ) where one can surf for days on epic waves of nausea. Yeah! Wooohooo! It's uncrowded and always firing. Friendly, may your car thieves enjoy this epic break as much as I am. ;P In the meantime, seeing how the last real sesh I had was the morning with Christian,
[ whiiiine ] I hope discovery of Pt. Intestinal Flu adds even more karma to my next surf sessions, oh pleeeaase!

Sincerely hope you're all getting some real surfing in! Mahalo...

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 11, 2003 11:55 AM

e? hello? e? hello? we miss you.

Posted by: lerm at August 11, 2003 04:27 PM

Hey, does anybody have Alex's number on hand for board repairs? I need a board fixed up!

Posted by: Ian at August 11, 2003 04:51 PM

well, i surfed m--- c---- many times when i lived in mendo, and i don't know what the fuss is about. it pretty mediocre when compared whith the reef breaks in santa cruz, and it takes twice as long to get there from the city. it gets good sometimes on a HUGE south swell (think over ten feet), but there's a million closer places to the north and south of the city that are as good or better, and don't have gnarly mendo locals on it. mentioning its name is not going to really change the scene. really, who's gonna drive three hours to TRY and get a fickle mushy wave that has rocks poppin up all over?

Posted by: t dog at August 11, 2003 05:40 PM

CHRISTIAN!! Thanks bro! You're a life saver man. Much thanks man!

Posted by: Ian at August 11, 2003 08:45 PM

RE: Localism, Spot-Naming, Etc.

I drove all over on Saturday and Sunday and returned dry. Saw a lot of secret spots that aren't so secret, known spots that aren't so secret and spots that break once every few years that aren't at all secret. There are no seceret spots here. Let it go. Don't advertise like mad but there is no reason to get bent when Bank Wright broke the story nearly thirty years ago, anyone can get a topo map of the coast let alone check out the pictures of the coast on line and pick out likely spots. It is rough when spots like Deadman's are so crushed but there is more out there....

Read through the Sunny Garcia interview and saw the show a couple times and am still unimpressed. Having grown up in Hawaii I know how insular it is there- people often have no idea what the outside world can really be like. I know I didn't when I moved to the mainland. His comment that once a year all the idiots in the world descend on the North Shore was hard to take. Having lived off Sixth St. for more than a decade I can assure Sunny that there are still plenty of idiots that aren't in Hawaii come November. Two weeks ago the awful shooting of the kick-boxing instructor, last night an insane hit and run, general crack-headed destruction; all within sight of my shop and home. This is idiocy, this is localism's upstaging. When we go surfing it is supposed to be fun; an escape from our stresses. Let's remember that there is much worse out there everywhere all the time. Let's be respectful of our abilities, others and our environs. Let's see where that takes us.

Over and out, some waves please sir.

Posted by: goodmorning at August 12, 2003 11:02 AM

Well, I'm glad to see that Surfer magazine will be taking on the issue of naming spots in their next issue. Then this debate can finally be laid to rest.

That *was* supposed to be sarcastic...

Posted by: caveman at August 12, 2003 11:10 AM

Surfline would have us believe it was surfable this morning. Did anyone actually go?

Posted by: Steve at August 12, 2003 12:58 PM

I also heard it was good but didn't see it myself. From my window the sea surface didn't look too bad but I couldn't actually see any waves, which I understand are an important part of the experience.

Posted by: robme at August 12, 2003 01:33 PM

8-9 am...SF...It was fun... Very consistent... A little confused but smooth... Some sets were pushing head high.

Posted by: kdalle at August 12, 2003 01:35 PM

Mid OB: Yeah, sorry no input, still marooned away from home at Pt. Intestinal Flu!

On an overdue niceness note, BIG thanks to e and all ye surfy posters for sharing the stoke on this site - it's vicariously delicious when I can't get to the water, not to mention a good community outlet since all my other pals think surfing NorCal is bonkers ...

Cheers!

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 12, 2003 03:22 PM

It was two inches and glassy at Aquatic Park this morning!

Posted by: mwsf at August 12, 2003 03:45 PM

a buddy of mine picked off a few at a secret SF left on the right tide today...
i guess there are a few semi clean dribblers to be found, and have some fun on.

Posted by: eightwest at August 12, 2003 04:29 PM

I'm definitely late in responding to this, but when I read stuff about the Creek up here on the North Coast, I cringed. Out of respect for those of us who surf the more "uncharted" areas, please don't give out spot names when it comes to spots north of Marin... even if guidebooks and such give out a pletheria of information. Don't add to it.

I've surfed that place on occasion. It's bad enough that the Santa Rosa crews come up and invade the lineups. Adding more to it is not very cool.

As others have said... let them seek out spots on their own. Names are like roadmaps in themselves.

Posted by: Drifty at August 12, 2003 06:41 PM

By the way, the break that got this whole discussion started is protected with funds from both Surfrider and the Nature Conservancy. It's on a tiny sliver of land, and now it's part of the public trust.

Posted by: robme at August 12, 2003 07:33 PM

ss sharkbait how could you divulge the name of that secret spot --

Point Intestinal Flu --.

Now all the kooks in the world will be surfing it. Next time just call it Point IF, that way only the people in the know can be puking there guts out.

FYI--check out the Storm Riders guide to North America.

Posted by: phil young at August 12, 2003 08:00 PM

kdalle - sorry to have missed you yesterday morning. I was ending a very long 47 hour period of family emergency, which culminated in the expected. mahalo

-Dave

Posted by: blakestah at August 13, 2003 08:25 AM

here's a little video from my chile trip
journals and photos to come later on....

Posted by: bbr at August 13, 2003 01:12 PM

bbr....sweet vid! can't wait to hear the tales.

hope some of you heads are sniffin' out some. i've been dry since a (desperation) sesh on Saturday that managed to reward me with a few fun ones. when-o-when will the next swell arrive?

in other news, i hit the Sturgis motorcycle rally in South Dakota last week (for work, believe it or not!). talk about a scene! pretty frickin' fun. one of the most interesting things was observing another community with its own localism...pecking order...and etiquette. the analogies were potent. another "interesting" component was seeing the various combinations of tattoos, lingerie, and chaps....but that's another story!

s.s., i hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: ck at August 13, 2003 02:36 PM

sick ck! can't wait to hear more about it. i think i'm going to make take my next surf trip to munich.

munich surf!

Posted by: lerm at August 13, 2003 04:16 PM

BBR... sickness on the waves. There must have been some knarly wipeouts on those rocks.

-d

Posted by: dano at August 13, 2003 06:23 PM

this morning's good intentions were dashed by the magnetic pull of pillow point. legs like lead following last night's crushing mountain bike ride. got into the office and found condition reports indicating that there's likely some fun to be had out there. anyone get some?

Posted by: ck at August 14, 2003 10:42 AM

yeah, same question...was anyone out this AM?

Posted by: friendly at August 14, 2003 10:50 AM

OB: Yup, people were out this am, and out now, too. Nothing epic - it's kinda textured, mushy or mushycloseout...but surfable. Lil' swells coming in straight to the beach or suprise, angled from NW. Maybe up to shoulder high? Fog almost burning off, air temp warm. Peeps surfing really relaxed. One guy out on a bright green board right now, especially smooth turns, soulful style.

..last eve was really mellow, and beautiful too. Sunset coming down and diffusing the light,dolphins leaping, birds diving for supper..and a few surfers again looking really relaxed *key Hawaiin music *. Especially noticed that they were sitting spaced apart, instead of clumping up...cool...

Point IF has really kicked my ass [ so sorry no pics ]...you thought OB gave ya a pounding...can't wait to get back in the water, but hooey after 2-3 weeks it'll be like starting from scratch again! Faaaark. Kudos to gatoraid and especially everyone who surfs mid OB - you're all inadvertently my Surf tutorial 101 ha haaaa!

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 14, 2003 11:52 AM

hope your feeling better ss.

got some fun ones. i paddled out at ob this morning before most people, including surfers, were out of bed. found a nice peak and surfed it solo for about 45 minutes before a crew of about 10 came out and sat right on me. by the time i got out of the water around 8:00 the conditions had deteriorated. most waves were in the waist to chest range. occasional head high.

Posted by: lerm at August 14, 2003 12:49 PM

where's e & the crew and new reports?

Posted by: Ian at August 14, 2003 01:10 PM

Hey Kids-
I will be venturing to Costa Rica next week and am looking for some breaks that will show some niceness in the last weeks of August. Any suggestions?
Siempre encantando el mar!

Posted by: Phunski at August 14, 2003 01:42 PM

thanks for sharing, lerm. sorry to hear about your magnetism though. tomorrow am, the new board gets wet!

Posted by: friendly at August 14, 2003 02:57 PM

thanks for sharing, lerm. sorry to hear about your magnetism though. tomorrow am, the new board gets wet!

phunski, I was in CR in late June and it was my first trip...I can't speak with any authority about what hits where, but I'll share our experience if you like. Email me.

Posted by: friendly at August 14, 2003 02:59 PM

Quote from Jack O'Neill in today's Chronical sums it all up:
"In San Francisco," says O'Neill, "you get all screwed up downtown. Then you go out in the ocean and get a ride, and everything's all right again."

Full Story

-Biggsie (busy getting screwed up in dwtn as I write this)

Posted by: biggsie at August 14, 2003 03:07 PM

s.s. glad to hear you're feeling better. Nothing more fun than a good bout of the stomach flu...arggg.

phunski...are you heading north, south or staying in central cr? I have been up to Tamarindo and the surrounding area. Very fun...if you want some really detailed info...purchase the surf report for $7 at this link:

http://surfmaps.com/detail.asp?PId=17001&CID=17&Keywords=Costa%20Rica%2020.4

Info may be somewhat dated, but still pretty good.

pura vida. have a great time.

Posted by: jdz at August 14, 2003 06:21 PM


Surfer's guide to Costa Rica:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967910005/qid%3D1002307912/sr%3D1-1/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F2%5F1/103-5926098-6071047
also at http://www.surfingtravel.com/

Should be able to find it in any well stocked surf shop. If ya buy it make sure you get a new edition. The latest seems to be 4th ed, September 2002.

Lots, and lots of valuable travel info as well as surf info.

Posted by: grant at August 14, 2003 06:37 PM

Was out at @ 6am w/ my buddy Nate.
Swell seemed cleaner & better organised than the last few days, if a bit smaller. Waist to chest.
Just us & then 1 other guy in the water for almost an hour, then 2 other guys. Plenty of space & niceness.
Tons of sealions in the water. At one point a family (I think it was a family, I could see the resemblance) of 7 came up right next to me & the big daddazay alpha one gave me a bit of a shouting at. I paddled away, for some reason saying "it's coo mah bruthah" & he seemed OK with it.
I can't remember when I started doing this but I think of seals as good luck & sea lions as extra good luck.
Because I only had time for an hour in the water I went to bikram yoga for the first time in a while this evening. got pretty destroyed, think it's too intense to do both in 1 day, even after an easy sess.

Posted by: cam at August 14, 2003 06:42 PM

Phunski,

I just got back from a 3 week trip to Costa Rica two days ago and I managed to score some great surf.

If you want a fun, heavy beach break in an amazingly beautiful place try Santa Teresa and Mal Pais. It's the sort of place people go to for 3 days and end up staying for 4 months! The locals are cool and it breaks on any tide.

For more info on places to surf ~ check out the surfline.com travel report, crsurf.com, and wetsand.com. For surf check try buoyweather.com.

Hope this helps and if you have any other questions send me a line.

Pura Vida!!!

Posted by: Jahmir at August 14, 2003 07:36 PM

Phunski,

I've spent about 3 months down in Costa Rica...let me know if I can help.

gone2costarica@yahoo.com

Posted by: bird at August 15, 2003 04:01 AM

Well what's the OB report for today besides "windy, crappy, weak windswell"? I am going today regardless, so did anyone see something worth grovelling for on the coast yet this morning?

Posted by: cbarney at August 15, 2003 09:14 AM

i checked it for about an hour this morning while chatting with robme and mwsf. i'm sad to say it was not good.

Posted by: lerm at August 15, 2003 10:26 AM

surfed after work yesterday at cron. pretty much shit but i needed to get wet. wind wasn't bad, just not much swell to work with.

Posted by: bbr at August 15, 2003 11:00 AM

Adam normally shoots these out, but i haven't seen him post recently so thought i'd jump in with a "community service announcement" on his behalf...

...there's a beach clean up at Balboa this Sunday, 10 to noon.

maybe some clean-up karma will bring us some swell?

Posted by: ck at August 15, 2003 11:59 AM

OB: flat and and blowsy, what there is looks kinda disorganized. Well, not so flat, I see some waistish high stuff rolling in, but it's tending to mush out. One longboarder currently searching. He just caught a little something, was like watching........ sommmebody...... suuurrrffff .....innnn.... slowwwww.... moooootionnnn. Oddly enough it's looking a little better than this morning, which isn't saying much...but perhaps it's because the sun's burning off the fog. FYI just got back from Pollutica - figured to go easy after le pt . flu - and it's gutless. Drove up Great Highway, OB not great, but saw a scant few peeps making the best of things...

And speaking of Pollutica, here's a genuine surf conversation a la today that I bet you dudes never ( I sure hope so ) hear:

Me ( paddling around a couple of guys): " Hello...no worries, I'm going around - won't be getting in your way"

Dude: " Thas okay, darlin', go ahead, we'd like you to get in our way! " [ wink wink ]

Yuuug.

Ah it's good to be back. Happy slurfing, folks!

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 15, 2003 12:39 PM

s.s., hmmm...that's strange....i heard someone say that to Kaiser just the other day... ; )

Posted by: ck at August 15, 2003 01:18 PM

anyone else notice this southie kicking in on the SF buoy?
http://www.pwizardry.com/buoy/index.html

too steep for us?

Posted by: biggsie at August 15, 2003 02:53 PM

ck, it was me who said that to kaiser.

i also told him that he had a nice ass and that i'd be happy to help him work on his moves back on land. [winky winky wink wink wink]. and i think he liked it, to tell you the truth.

hee hee hee...s.s., thanks for the laugh...and, kaiser, my apologies for the lampooning. it was just too much to resist on a friday afternoon.

Posted by: friendly at August 15, 2003 02:59 PM

Easy now! Don't make me get going.....

You guys need to get in the water! If you are so bored that you are talking about winky-winking me, you got issues. If it is flat, go paddle out anyway, I think you need it.

And I do have a nice ass thanks!

Just got back from a golf/boozefest in Seattle so haven't seen water for days. Thats ok because BALI IS NEAR!!!!!! HHHAAAAAA, HHEEEEEEEE, HOOOOOO!

Posted by: Kaiser at August 15, 2003 05:35 PM

Too funny... glad to see you are better SS.

-d

Posted by: dano at August 15, 2003 05:35 PM

biggsie - I wouldn't bet on the south Sat. Looks like steep windswell conditions to me - look for places that will receive 320-330 degrees well.

BTW, I am pretty good friends with the pwizardry master. He also did the Pacific Waverider automatically updating sites (the ones with arrows for the swell that alternate beaches). He is a good guy, a good waterman, and an outstanding PERL wizard.

Made the new UFO today. It's come a long way since we had the first niceness test - we are now on generation 3.

Posted by: blakestah at August 15, 2003 10:09 PM

Saw Step Into Liquid last night at the Embarcadero. Excellent flick. A bit hokey at times, a painfully bad soundtrack (in my opinion), but otherwise a great look at surfing. Seeing the Cortes Bank footage on the big screen was worth the price of admission alone. The Director of Photography and Daily Wavester were there last night for a Q & A and will be there today as well.

Posted by: mwsf at August 16, 2003 09:49 AM

Where, where the Hell is E?
Where, where the Hell is E?

Well, maybe he went to get a sideways haircut
Maybe he went to get a striped shirt
Maybe he went to get some plastic shoes
Maybe he went to get some funny sunglasses

Well, maybe he went to get an Air Force parka
Maybe he went to get a Vespa scooter
Maybe he went to get a British flag
Maybe he went to go Mod Ska dancing

Well, maybe he went to get a mohawk
And maybe he went to get some gnarly thrash boots
Maybe he went to go ride his skateboard
Maybe he went to see the Circle Jerks

Where, where the Hell is E?
Where, where the Hell is E?

Posted by: caveman at August 17, 2003 12:32 PM

I just got back from the Surf Culture art show in San Jose. VERY COOL! If any of you get a chance it's running until November, and it's free!

Posted by: Ian at August 17, 2003 06:29 PM

Twas the night before E's return
and all through the boards
twas eager excitement
and edgy nerves.

With 111 messages,
make this 112,
the board was quite full,
full of ourselves.

Something was missing,
twas E, E, E!!
The ocean had gone flat,
a curious mystery.

Would E bring the waves,
with his stoke, love, and smile?
Or would the great Pacific
make us wait still a while.

It should not matter to me,
for I'm on the East Coast,
with a busted shoulder at that
that hurts me the most.

But knowing this crew
and the stoke waves would bring
makes me rejoice along with you
when the ocean does sing.

Posted by: jake at August 17, 2003 07:26 PM

WELL im one of your readers and i like those pictures.Im also a surfer, im from seychelles and iwould like if you and your team could come to seychelle to see what we have here to offer.we have some spots with nice wave.i will ask you if you can Email me some nice pictures of some great barrelle and pipes and some nice wipe out .EMAIL ADRESS DR_ROLAND3692000@YAHOO.COM

Posted by: francis at February 9, 2004 12:56 AM

WELL im one of your readers and i like those pictures.Im also a surfer, im from seychelles and iwould like if you and your team could come to seychelle to see what we have here to offer.we have some spots with nice wave.i will ask you if you can Email me some nice pictures of some great barrelle and pipes and some nice wipe out .EMAIL ADRESS DR_ROLAND3692000@YAHOO.COM

Posted by: francis at February 9, 2004 12:56 AM

WELL im one of your readers and i like those pictures.Im also a surfer, im from seychelles and iwould like if you and your team could come to seychelle to see what we have here to offer.we have some spots with nice wave.i will ask you if you can Email me some nice pictures of some great barrelle and pipes and some nice wipe out .EMAIL ADRESS DR_ROLAND3692000@YAHOO.COM

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