E's Surf Report

e...one east bay omission. well 2.....and this is for the
carnivores in the house....THE SMOKEHOUSE burgers,
fries, shakes on the edge of berkeley/ oaktown i think
on shattuck, maybe telegraph been a while but....good grub.

and TOP DOG. how can you omit the DOG?
they have real hot dogs. we have a statue of a dog.

happy gastronomy to all with your lunch plans......
IT'S OUT THERE....

east bay advantage ---- no predestined commitment to any particular northern california break...they is all a mofo long ass drive with boards strapped on da roof and led zep blasting from the auto sound system..don't forget your fast pass for da bridge...has anyone seen the bridge...where's that confounded bridge

Is the perfect partner/lover out there for each of us?

east bay is where i am, it's where my friends are, my kids' friends, the gig that pays for my life, community, and oh yeah my little cottage with plants and driveway and love inside... i love it here. of course, all of the niceness comes with badness too: hookers on the corners, condoms in the backyard thrown out the motel windows (g-d effers they are), freeway soot, 30 minutes minimum to our fair ocean beach (naturally 60 minutes when there's surf). there's good and bad with everything. i quess we just try to give ourselves the best possible environment we can....

my wife and I are very actively trying to figure if we can move to the city somewhere. how likely would we be to find a house to rent (not a shared wall apartment) in the sunset, panhandle, richmond, for say $15-1700? biggish 2 BR, kid friendly, safe area. i'm jonesin to be closer to the ocean, and my wife is too. we own a house here in loverly ghettolicious oaktown (i had some random person tell me i was ghetto last night: how cool is that?! i fancy myself as un-ghetto, but sometimes you are what people think you are), but can't afford SF houses. what the eff to do?

i gotta increase my currently weekly surf sessions. can't easily do it from soooo far away.... pacifica? maybe. marin... no. SF? maybe.

must surf more more more more

What up niceness posse,

Man, I think there are some pretty good waves at OB right now. Wasn't in the cards for me this morning. I don't want to turn this into "E's used equipment billboard" but I have a brand new 6' 8" Al Merrick "MBM" model squash tail shortboard I want to sell and I figured I would give the niceness crew first shot. It is 19 and 1/4 wide and 2 and 5/8 thick (a really tapered to the rail 2 and 5/8 so it is floaty but feels thinner). Its a killer board and the MBM is the template Al is currently using for most of his team riders and a really popular model. The reason I am selling it is that I have another 6'8" Merrick I like a little better and I want to use the money for other stuff. I've ridden the board 4-5 times and have had it for under 3 weeks. It is in mint condition. Its a great board for a bigger guy who wants a high performance board that will paddle well at OB (I'm 5"11" 190). I bought it for $530 and it has a $30 pad on it. I will sell it for $400 with Merrick fins. If I don't hear back from someone soon, I'm going to put it in the shop at Aqua. E-mail me if your interested with a phone number and I'll get in touch. Later

There was clean stuff to be had not far away. Not a lot of size, but good enough for me, and fortunately lots fewer people than yesterday at El Jetty.

BTW, if anyone found some men's booties at the Jetty yesterday, erm, they could just possibly be mine . . . (anon-KloolessKook at craigslist.org). Relatedly, water-shoes that are a size too big are not necessarily the optimal replacements for booties; but they do eventually wash up on the beach.

oak -> email re: 1500-1700 in the sunset/richmond, have some friends who may be moving in the next 4-6mos, will try to put you in contact.

yo niceness,
off topic here:
i'm looking for a bioinformatics person for a offline discussion. if you now what i'm talking about throw me an email at three2fivesetsof7@yahoo.com
PEACE and thanks.

3to5.. talk to Jocular Jake.. the dude majored in bioinformatics at Stanford and rips shit up..

or.. are you talking about some other type of bio-informatics?? hmmm...

I'm busting Klooless Kook: he's totally getting rides on this little 6"6' and it's only the first week out. Prodigy.

OB: Currently thigh-head ...[a bit bigger at lower tide, 6 footers definitely so keep eye on the wind later]...very very mooshy, but rideable. Foggy and steady onshores, yet no whitecaps and it's not nearly so lumpy as one would expect. Peaks are sparse, lulls, currently 1-3 takers scattered solo about the beach. Not epic but not hopeless slop either. Look around, like e surmised it is out there.

fuck I leave for yosemite tonight for my first time and I can't decide which board to bring! oh my god, oh my god.

e,
i'm talking stanford bioinformatics stuff. do you have an email for him? THANKS!

oh yeah, thanks for the shout. err but i live on the peninsula. i was born in berk tho.

speaking of lost booties....i found a pair of ladies
boots on the east side of the lot at vfw's saturday
7.17th around 6.30p or so. if ya'll...
the niceness crew knows of any ladies with cold feets
that is missing some. would you post or alert?

nice-ness.

Since no one posts Marin county surf conditions here ya go:
Swell hittin Kron, but wind is killing it in the afternoon, and morning. High tide sucks. evening winds calmer, But swell much smaller breakin on the beach. Today smaller. junkier. Its Kron!
From the guy in the black suit

Sunell. Quick question. I'm the same size and am forever trying to get the right performance with adequate floatation. What is your other Merrick model that you prefer. Got a Flyer II 6'6" 19 1'4 X 2 9/16" that is pretty damn good. Did you request that the rails be thinned out or did it just come that way?

A topic Close to my Heart. The EAST. The EAST BAY. My Home since moving from Hum in '98.
SHOUT OUTS to East Bay LADIES- what a lovely Melting Pot of femininity, Alice Arts and all their programs, the WEEKLY conglomeration of folks, drums, music, food and misc. schraka at the FLEA- those folks turn it out rain or shine, to the A's, to my Cruiser, to the B-town born and bred, most premiere Solar Company in the world -PowerLight, to backyard bungalows with vegi gardens, Ethiopian food, The Skate Park, Bicycle Boulevards, the Hills, Tilden, Sibley, shouts to O****, where that Kaiser Thong shot may have been snapped, shouts to the best Market in the world, Be*****y B**l......, to V**s, the best Indian in Nor Cal
(**i mean shit, when do i ever have a chance to keep a secret from y'all**) :)

Not that I have not looked at rooms/houses by the Beach. I have. The temptation is daily, but no matter how you look at it- the commute would be insane.
Last Spring, after a fully satisfying Sat AM surf, my bro and I ate sandwiches outside AG Ferrari on Piedmont, lamenting our EBay distance from our Mama Ocean. We sat and chomped, disgruntled. Almost on cue, a barbershop quartet set up across the street and began harmonizing. For the rest of lunch, we were graced with their vocal splendor, their harmony and rhythym, spirit and ROOTS. We looked at eachother and smiled- only in Oakland. Thats why we're here.

I won't buy this far from Mama Ocean however. Cant do it
Being a East Bay surfer is a challenge. The Mantra in our EB Surfer Circle: WE'RE GOING. IT does not matter how funky, crossed up, windy, pinner or Chunkafied the Ocean may be. We just crossed that Bridge, manuvered the cross Market hell, dropped down to 3rd gear, Motored up Fell and now, we suit up REGARDLESS of Conditions.. That level of commitment is refreshing, I have no choice.

Saw Riding Giants last night. Greg Noll is my favorite. Especially knowing that for the last 25 years, he has lived in Crescent City and operated commercial fishing boats, relatively anonomously. That Guy Defines CORE.
Rad to see Washburn riding Mavs on a SHITTY onshore day (end of Movie). That guy oozes Stoke.
My buddy said he saw him at OB on the Channel side of Seal Rock on a big South day. Supposedly, some Cove headz didn't know who he was and had some criticisms... gimme a break.

Happy to tour any Niceness headz around our E Bay hood. Give me a shout, hop the BART with your Cruiser and let me illuminati your perspective on the Bay Area.

oaktown daddy, biggish 2 BR house for under $2k in the sunset is a steal, more so even in the richmond

suneil - good luck. I've watched the used rack at SF for years, and never seen a used shortboard fetch that much - but craigslist and ebay would be your best bet. Somehow funboards/longboards hold value well, but shorter thrusters don't.

lawn waves

kinda wave-like

wave organ in the Marina

water coming on

waving

Peristaltic Wave

g-land.. the ultimate wave

west java

east bay dont play..

"Well, I think that, music, ...ah being expression, ...of the human heart, of the... human, of being itself, does express just what is happening..."

- john coltrane

OK, so there was a little juice at the south end yesterday morning. Sorry about the quality- I need a lesson on shooting OB from MexiSurf. Other than Mav's it's the most difficult place to shoot good photos in NorCal.

I saw some fantastic waves, then the alarm clock went off. In my dreams I can be near the waves, or heading out to them invitingly, but I cannot seem to actually RIDE dream surfboards on dream waves. Sometimes waves show up in the strangest places: roaring down a back alley in the city, rolling down a thickly forested creek bed, even joined a line-up of headz waiting for perfect glassy swell near a wooden dock on a lake in southern New Jersey. REM sleep offers just as much as the waking life, that's where I climb the vision vine.

Monkey Milk

my 3 favorites

these waves look like my favorite kind too..

hey pixelpete - chill on the spot naming. There is a reason people don't post Marin conditions with named spots on the freaking internet. That spot you named is already way, way too crowded given the meagre waves and limited area (unlike the huge area of OB - get it?) so CHILL. Capiche?

honu'ea:

bro-bra, chill on the chill. it ain't that special. it's july.

east bay play

honu'ea.....seriously.....who cares? kroncite sucks....i wish everyone would surf there

hey honu'ea, it's no use. this board is mostly f u c k i n g kooks who don't give a shit. they've ruined san mateo county surfing over the last six months. guess it's time for them to head north. sorry about your luck.

egp

this message board reminds me of what localism is like.

don't do this, do that, fucking kook this, kook that...

the spot naming thing? i think some people on here think this message board is something more than it is.

what happened to all the good vibes?

Hey Gang, Even though Cron sucks (usually), I agree we should all just agree to not name spots. There's too much baggage with this issue and this would simplify everything.

....and yes I know, even the EG thing should be blessed with these protections. That one got so personal a while back, that it's almost like people are naming him instead of the spot.

don't let em' hassle you kookdom.. still plenty of good vibes around.. check out monkey milk's dream post above.. how psyched is steama on his east bay environs! Sharkbait's still fired up about the OB scene. EG Pimp's just pimpin' it from Kansas like only he knows how.. a pimp knows not the way of the good vibe. He only knows back-hand slappin' and crack-ho backin'.

oh yeah.. this guy rips too.. marc ribot

stanley jordan knows what's up

stanley... experimenting

so, it's not cool to post a trailmap to magics, then?

e, you're killing it as usual. But, I haven't left town yet. Got a few more months of pimpin' left here on the coast. Heading east of Kansas and west of PA. Takin' the bitches with me, selling the palace and stickin' a wad of cash in my pocket.

egp

word pimp.. keep pimpin'

check out John Kerry

hey yo fife you look fat
ya i know it looks pathetic
ali shaheed mohamed's got me doing calesthenics

pimpin in kansas aint easy.

im tired.

what happend to "vague is vogue"? i thought that was petty catchy, too.

Here we go again......

Pimp, enjoy the waves bra! That cash will do you well in the middle of nowhere. Go big, buy a farm or something.

If we are naming Lindy all the time, its only fair to expose other crappy spots. Thats why we get to talk about the Jetty with utter disrespect. Besides, the bridge toll is 5 bones and I SELDOM choose to pay $5 to check a mostly crappy place when I can drive to a typically crappy Lindy.

And I can get a taco to boot....

"vague is vogue" is vogue

Kaiser's the man... with the master plan... and that ain't no flim flam.

Naming named spots is OK.
We all know them all.
Directions to unnamed spots = back pain.
The freethinkers shall score
The contollers shall suffer.
The doctor is IN!

Crap. I don't think the link to my e-mail went through. Anyways it's suneilthomas@sbcglobal.net. CBarney, sorry for the delayed response. I bought the board of the rack but I really like the tapered volume to the rails. I have found that a lot of the float of a board is in the chest anyway and if you bring it flat out to the rails, you get a really boxy board that doesn't turn well. The other Merrick I liked was the MX. I think I am the only person I have talked to that likes it more than the MBM. Blakestah, I know $400 is high for a used board but not high for a brand new Merrick that has been used 5 times. You can find cheaper boards for sure but this is the cheapest way most people will ever get to try a Merrick. I've been "player hating" on the guy for years thinking his boards are overpriced but they are flat out the fastes most responsive boards I have ever ridden and I've tried a bunch of different ones. He just has the consistency, computer shaped blank thing down.

ATCQ is in the hiszouse

There's definitely some shizzle pop in those S. Jordan pics ...e - you're indeed, killin it.

Here's Pat Martino ...and oh yes that's Stern in the background. These guys are big wave riders fo sho'.

e - could you please make this work?

http://www.blackdiamondsystems.com/~pmartino/images/Photos/Martino%20&%20Stern%2097.jpg

Marc Ribot rules. Have the same guitar as him, yet not as vintage I am sure.

Saw Stanley Jordon rip it up with Panic at Keystone a few years back. I think I was the only head in the area who knew who he was. Some serious skills he's got.

Here is one for ya straight from Cotati:

And just to keep it real around here one more to get over the hump of the week (no, not hump all week, wednesday you fool):

bumpersticker spotted in SF:

DESIRE
ACQUIRE
DISCARD
REPEAT

East Bay Burgers = Val's

Jack's pic of Martino and Stern.. shredders..

Stanley Jordan story. In college I bought a used Fender Pro Reverb from the guy who was playing keyboard with him in a band; when I came to look at it and buy it, Jordan was there, looked at the keyboard player and asked, "then what am I going to practice on?"

He must have found something. And extensive testing has proved definitively that it wasn't the amp that made him good.

I agree - Cron sucks. It used to suck but be uncrowded, now it sucks and is crowded, and every summer seems to get exponentially worse so the less advertising the better. And kookdom and 1to2, I totally see your points, but as far as bad vibes go I didn't see the k-word anywhere in my post, and I hardly think asking someone to chill on naming your spot is overly harsh. So chill on telling me to chill on telling him to chill!

L-Y-R to the I-C-S
niggas still frontin 'bout who be the best,
when diggy dog bounce through i put all that to rest,
any one try fess ill put 2 in their chest,
people i present flavor, style, finesse,
microphone honeys; 2 things i carress
all you fake jiggy niggas, still aint impressed?
QUEENS i rep it too the fullest
you'd think i own the mets..

i used to not like this guy so much now i think hes the best ever..

is flint's bbq still there? i used to rock that place now and then in my college days.

speaking of college, i gotta say that i'm down with bagel and hermosa -- the low end theory is imho one of the greatest albums ever...

Industry rule number four thousand and eighty,
record company people are shady.
So kids watch your back 'cause I think they smoke crack,
I don't doubt it. Look at how they act.
Off to better things like a hip-hop forum.
Pass me the rock and I'll storm with the crew and ...
Proper. What you say Hammer? Proper.
Rap is not pop, if you call it that then stop.

Klooless.. that's rad that you bought a Pro Reverb that Stanley Jordan played out of! nice! were you a Tiger in college? Pete Carill fan, etc?

i grew up going to basketball games there. Then i went to school at a semi-rival in Philly. Kids from your school used to cruise to ours to party.

Bojon is also an alum.

sweeet.

on the spot naming on this site. i have no doubt in my mind it has an effect on the crowds. a certain spot whose name has been called many times over the past few days was populated with more surfers on one single afternoon than i have seen there total in the past 5 years. i gotta believe the reason is this website. use technology how you wish. if you wish to surf waves with a bunch of guys whose abilities are so limited that they create danger in the lineup, post the spot on this site and your wish will be granted. on the other hand, if you wish to surf waves with a couple of buddies and no hassle, stay quiet on the spot, talk about what a fun time you had and no more on this site, and let everybody do their own work in finding places to surf. everybody can make their own choice. just realize your choice has effects not only yourself, but everybody else who likes to surf uncrowded waves with a couple of buddies.

Yawn...

The reason it's crowded is cause PEOPLE SURF THERE. If every poster and lurker on this site would just stop surfing I could have a little alone time out there.

'kay?

nice.

one more from one of the all time best....aka Reggie Noble

I smoked with a lot of college...students
Most of theem wasn't graduating and they knew it
You know the weed slang? Yeah I speak it fluent
I light your ..(something)........ from Newark

EGPimp: NOBODY has pimped or drawn more attention to "your" spot more than you have. For every word and insult you've thrown at this blog, you should thank yourself for another bobbing head in the lineup down there, you even name that spot to thousands of people every single time you sign a post.

Nope, that spot has been crowded for the last several months.

It is because this summer has SUCKED! When the waves were small and the winds were blowing south, where did everyone driving on the coast go?

They went where other people were.

This discussion is bullshit and tired! The reason these "normally-not-populated" breaks are crowded or seem to get more activity is related more the the fact that the following:
1) People follow other people.
2) These breaks are along the ONLY corridor which delivers to them.
3) Did I mention that this summer has sucked in comparison to the last few years?

If you think I tell a lie, drive to a certain cove near a certain large wave magnet in San Mateo county. It is not "along the road" and you will not see what many people out. Why? Because most people don't have the balls to paddle out there!

I speak the truth! And this spot naming crap is over-hyped!

BTW, there is a 6 ft south coming in from 220 degrees RIGHT NOW! Head to your favorite south facing break in El Granada for some shackage. You can see it from the road and it will be firing.....

But only until 6:00 tonight, so hurry....

You should learn a lesson from game theory. Remember the Prisoner's Dilemma? If not, click here to understand it. Basically, it says that people will ultimately act in their own self interest, which is against the good of the whole population.

Now apply that to surfing and naming spots. Given: no matter how many times you lecture people, they'll keep naming spots. Given: some number of lame surfers will go to a spot because it was named (even if there are better spots to be found with a little work.) Therefore, the logical conclusion is that you should give up trying to keep people from naming spots. Instead, you should name as many spots as possible, using different user names, different report styles, etc. If you do it well, real spot naming will be indistinguishable from fake spot naming and you'll end up with people randomly distributed among all the spots or depending on some other criteria to look for a spot. I call this "throwing chaff", after the airplane missile countermeasures.

Let's give it a shot on this board -- but be sure to blend in!

Dano, one from the archives here....

And this spot is off limits to you guys. It only breaks in my living room....

Its called Nice Reef, see below!

OK. Starting from the CH south to 3A:
K, VFW, TA, FPL, SPL, CH, MR, RV, PP, PL, R, RH, LM, BD, GWC, M, S, RC, M, BHR, SB, KC.

Any in between spots should not be named.

'kay?

"I speak the truth! And this spot naming crap is over-hyped!"

Straight up brother.

Surfing is extremely mainstream these days, everybody wants to do it, not many people can. To think that naming a spot on the cali coast in a message board results in said spot being overcrowded is just a load of 'whatever that brown stuff is' floating around in the water at that spot.

Remember when skateboarding was lame?

fact: we're all sitting here at a desk typing... not ripping SMC, not ripping Pavones, not ripping Chacala, not ripping Desert Point, not ripping anywhere. give it a rest, go on a trip, smoke a bowl, something. jesus. it's surfing. it's July- time. it hasn't fired for months. that's summer in No Cal. prisoner's dilemma: you always lose no matter what unless you collude

Look at her silky smooth body...

I just want to rub my 6'5'' Coffey along her beautiful curves.

If only I could just have a few minutes with her.....

Ok, I am stopping now!

small tear in my eye 'cause the niceness now bye.
"they're gonna name names." And in the end, we will all proclaim our innocence.

well, what do ya know... lack luster waves and tired conversations. nah, it's kind of fun to read all the posts.

so, blakestah made a comment late last night about a post i made.... surfing a friends board before he got to... akin to sleeping with your best friends virgin fiance the night before the wedding! classic.

well, that SOB was me, but the difference is that well. he asked me to. and well, no excuses. but here's the pic. total fun ride. you be the judge.

and for good measure... as well as to keep some good vibes flowing...

and to hog some bandwidth to fill the voids between sets.

name the towns closest to these secret spots in the last pic above and you win a drink from the firehose!

hint...
tuscany,
out west in a secluded ghost town east of 395,
in between sierra city and nevada city,
west of 395 highest point in the on this here land mass(n.america)

ok, im board.
ha.

so many smiles in that audience..

i never half step cause im not a half stepper
drink alot of soda so they call me dr pepper.

elias....

i'da done it too.

nice work on that shape. when can i get one?
are all your boards orange?

ha ha

kaiser, i agree that other factors play into the crowded situation. but naming names on this site has changed the game. i've personally been out at ******* and heard guys mention THIS VARY SITE as a good source for surf 411.....

elias you shouldn't post photos with landmarks

Fake spot surf report:

Clean and double-overhead at LMNOP, light offshore breeze. Due to astronomical anomoly, no tides today. Industrial accident at nearby brewery has turned ocean into beer. Bring jumper cables: Reef Girl's tour bus broken down in parking lot. Yeah, and, uh, someone found a penguin.

EG Pimp where you originally from bro? Kansas? Is that home? You go to HBMHS? What year you graduate?

No doubt spot naming is probably over-hyped but even one less head out when you finally get there for your sesh can mean one or two extra waves so why take chances? Is it really that fun to name a spot? Is it really that hard to be covert? Sure people will clue in but let them do it gradually with a little work, like most of us had to do. Remember surfing before the internet? Wasn't so bad if you ask me.

My last preach on this point, y'all do what you gotta do, I know I will still catch my fair share.

e, yup! Better surf out here, though, even than "Surf City" itself (NJ).

Aack! I've named a spot!

someone asked where all the good vibes went.

they burned up at two crucial events:

1. when e sold out to the locals so he could get more waves at local spots.

2. when kaiser ushered in censorship during e's latin america trip.

nice work boys.

kaiser the only things in danger of breaking in your living room would appear to be your wrist and/or your cock. you are torturing me with the reef ass.

Either way, stay out of my living room!

I don't share because I am selfish as you can tell!

Glad you like the pics. Sorry if I pissed off the ladies once again! I do it out of love.

Elias, how the boards coming along?

He who lives only to benefit himself confers on the world a benefit when he dies.

The man who lives by himself and for himself is likely to be corrupted by the company he keeps.

There is possibly something more subtle going on. Check this out.

see also

short summary: comment forums can turn negative at scale. possibly an inherent problem. audience threshholds vary.

Aaahh! Could it be as simple as this. Does the population size increase the propensity of getting a few bad apples?

Or even simpler: "Less waves means more aggro behaviour."

Would this testiness be here if the buoy was 11' at 15 sec. with a very slight southeast breeze???

My 2 cents: it's summer. Waves suck and school's out. So there are way more tiny tots in the water. Blame the media for getting everyone "into" surfing and taking their brand new board out to your fave spot.

It's good to remember that they'll all be gone in September, right about when things start happening again.

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where are we going?

Hahha!
If you cant keep up then get out my friend. Crowds? Its a battle sometimes. And if you can't battle or share the stoke of others then take up bird watching.
Kron: Marin headlands,Sausalito exit after the bridge. Go under the tunnel and drive really fast because its always fireing!
Oh ya wear your brightest wetsuit if you wanna be low pro.
Want me to name other spots? They have all been exposed. There no more secret spots around. Just no one surfin them.
Get over it!
The guy in the dayglo wetsuit!

well happy bastille day to all you proprietors of native inheritance. we're taking over you should consider yourselves lucky if you still surf five years from now. we peasants are restless. you can have sloat and noriega in november for a little while longer, we're taking linda mar cronkite bolinas montara grey whale cove pomponio rcas tunitas jetty rockaway and every avenue at the beach between march and october. pretty soon we'll be coming for november and december. enjoy for now your days are numbered.

ok, so i shouldn't put landmarks in photo's that i've taken.
maybe next i could put a black box on everything that isn't water.

yeah right!

if you know those spots, then they are not that secret. and does that matter? none have been named.

if you print out a picture of this comments page and drive the the coast looking for a match. then you deserve to find it. and if you do, please be responsible, don't bring a truckload of people with you. surf by yourself or one other. respect the lineup and be smart. don't be a beligerent selfish fool.

but chances of knowing what tides, what swell and how to get out... as well as putting up with the locals of all sorts. that information was carefully with-held.

now. this community is getting bigger.
hopefully the niceness will spread.

i frequent this blog because i live here and i surf these waters. i appreciate the efforts of ethan. the crew that regularly posts on this site live here and are a good bunch of people. im excited that a community of sorts is forming. its nice to see some niceness, cause more often than not stink eye prevails. i'm for smiles.

if you have problems with what i post, then email me. save the pop shots for a decent conversation. not one that you brodcast your righteousness. pop shots like these lead to a rift between factions. thus, spreading the "non-niceness" and making for unpleasant banter.

i know my retort is a "pop" shot of shorts, but i think over the time that i have spent reading and posting, i have tried to put forth a positive spin on most topics. taking care to be respectful and share some stoke.

in the absence of good surf and a little extra time, i dug up some pics from years ago (5 or so) and decided to share with the peeps. if i am out of line by doing this, then i'll stop. but please, lets save our angst for things like civil liberties and changing the world to be a better place.

aight.

fin.

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P-Dee at Ockaway-Ray Each-Bay. Aist-way to oulder-shay. Empty at sunrise, but by the time I left at 7 AM there were 7 in the water and 1 in the parking lot. Including a ee-knay oarder-bay. The bathrooms were locked, so I took my orning-may it-shay at McDonald's.

no offense elias, but i disagree with posting pictures of somewhat secret spots that show landmarks that give away their location. you're right that place is super fickle and the shot is super small, so i'm not too worried about it. just voicing my opinion, not taking "pop" shots.

I wasn't going to post today but...

Elias, great comments.

AES, I just want to point out something to you and to the other people that take offense to things posted: At first glance, I didn't look at Elias' photos as some secret spot or series of spots. I only saw them as cool looking waves in a cool looking collage. However, with YOUR comments, I now know that these photos are from some "secret" type of spot near or far from here. Now I am intrigued!

So, I ask all of you, who is being more destructive here? Just keep this in mind when you think to point out something you feel is wrong or "exposing".

Not everyone knows what you know!

cool, i guess i was just venting and trying to address the sitch of the never ending debate.

aight. peace.

A peek out the window as the muni 38 rattles me awake once again.....kellys has got something for those in need. Oaktown Daddy im gonna be movin outta my Pad in a few months to a new spread. My flat is 2 bedroom one bath top floor, hardwood floors through, about 8 or 900 square feet. Kinda big living room etc. its at 46th and Cabrillo so your close(about 3 blocks so you can walk to kellys) to Safeway Muni The Beach and of course the avoidable wise surf shop.rent is $1650
and the landlords are the best ive had. Move in is first and last and you can look out the window on carbrillo and see the surf. Lemme know

Kudos to whoever posted the picture of Ft.Kronkite I hope to see a mob of people at that epic spot because its firing every day of the week and all the Marinites love to share waves.

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Next time we go over 100 posts, can it be a different topic? zzzzzzzzzzzz

If you can see it from the PCH, it ain't a secret.

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Instead of surfing secret spots, I decided to surf secret times. Early bird catches the wave.

And why are people who are surfing the net caring about what happens in the ocean? I haven't seen a single post saying, "I got back from a surf session that was totally crowded with internet geeks."

Sounds like you went for it after all, (I don't know what the official pig-latin grammar yields for "Andrew"). I was there real early, looked at it for 15 minutes, and no waves showed up. So I headed elsewhere and got a few lefts, including one really fun one, where I got three pretty good drops and turns. good vibe, too, among the two or three others out there. the one guy who was out before me was hooting & stuff. i need to figure out how the hooting practice works: when do you hoot, exactly? are there different hoots for different purposes?

Over 1000 unique visitors every day this week here on the niceness surf report. 1,335 yesterday. most ever! also first time over 100 comments.

What's your goal here bro? Seriously, what is your intent with this website? I'm all about having a stoked filled venue for a few people to share the love, but I think everyone is kidding themselves if they think this site is still being read by just a few with zero effect on crowds. No this discussion is not tired! Surfing is and should always be a unique lifestyle not a mainstream activity where any schmo can participate. I think this site was great when a few people could share some stoke amongst bro's but whether you know it or not, your "good vibe" intent in my view is having negative repurcussions on our little Norcal surf scene. It reminds me of the difference between the guys who really rip and say nothing vs. the guys that are mediocore to poor that do nothing but talk shit in the water. I mean no offense but the majority of the people on this site can't surf well, are not locals, and are relatively new to the sport. So why do you feel obliged to infuriate those who have earned this? What would happen if the guys that sat on the shoulder at Pipe tried to set up a chat room without the voices of the guys who sat on the peak? You got it, would never happen. I have always looked to surfers like Curren who let their surfing tell the story. I love surfing and know your intentions are good but its backfiring man. If your intent is to water-down one of the most core activities on the planet than you are succeeding. Sorry to rant here, but I'm interested to know what you are trying to accomplish by having more hits on your site, more people divulging names of spots, and encouraging more new surfers into an already clogged lineup.

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