out of the loop
Don't know what's happening at the beach??
Last night was fogged-in out there.
Did a surf check around 7:30pm and couldn't even see the waves from the dunes.
The onshores were blowing too dagnabbit.
Bagel may have surfed?
Surf-related Stream of consciousness:
Barrel barrel lip chunk down-the-line fog throw bikini meany local stink-eye bridge clip the lip slip fall wipe underwater mermaid copenhagen north sea no surf central-coast wooded-trail glassy-reef mysto-feel kelp-forest otters-eating wake-and-bake saturday-morning mellow-vibes smell-the-wax chat-with-Brett sun-pokes-through paddle-out spin-around take-off-steep off-the-bottom pump-and-carve barrels-crackin' wait-for-waves Marin-mountains Point-Reyes Pacifica Lawton-Church just for fun catching waves smell of ocean leaky wetsuit take a piss sitting in piss feels good fart in suit smells bad bubbles up spooky fin hope its a dolphin sea lions look like dogs oh my god i need some waves waves waves offshores no crowds but maybe one or two nice people not the car thief that guy sucks.
Tim Curren, Machado and Slates score south swell barrels in Southern California
Brendan Monroe has some great stuff hanging at Giant Robot right now
also, if you like primal, spirit-enriched, abstract, avant-garde, rocked-out electric guitar Sonny Sharrock is an unsung hero! I'm loving The Sonny Sharrock Trio "Dance with me Montana" right now. "Ask the Ages" is a cool album too. Sharrock played guitar on "Theme from Jack Johnson" by Miles Davis on the second track "Yesternow." He doesn't get credit on the album and everybody thinks it's John McGloughlin (sp?), but... it's Sonny Sharrock, a true ripper of the highest order.
Waves were a-okay at the beach this a.m. Best in a long time.
Posted by: amigoism at August 23, 2005 09:55 AMNew page up from Central America.
http://www.paulferraris.com/personal/summer2005.html
I've got 6 days to paint the outside of my house. Here goes.
Posted by: Mexi at August 23, 2005 10:01 AMConditions last night were just like that Slater-Machado-Curran video, only not as big, not as clean, not as set up, and there were less tourists playing on the inside.
Posted by: Burnt Reynolds at August 23, 2005 10:05 AMbeer beer beer tiddily beer beer beer
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 10:13 AMGreat pic:

Posted by: Kaiser at August 23, 2005 10:20 AMNice, man. Wonder where that is.
Posted by: MSG at August 23, 2005 10:28 AMSick photos Mexi! Looks like you had an epic summer
Posted by: artifact at August 23, 2005 10:28 AMi surfed and wished i didnt. i kind of agree with burnt, at its best though i say it was more like that anthony ghiglia picture second from the top only 20 times smaller, i was at smelly's though. looked like there was more swell this morning. nice shots mexi.
Posted by: bagel at August 23, 2005 10:45 AMSweet! More coastal development
"Donahue Peebles, president and chief executive of the company, said he envisions a $400 million to $600 million low-density project for the long- vacant site west of Highway 1 and south of Mori Point. If done right, the project has the potential to transform Pacifica into a posh coastal destination like Pebble Beach and Carmel-by-the-Sea, he said. "
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/23/BUGM1EBIE01.DTL
Posted by: artifact at August 23, 2005 10:56 AM
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 11:00 AMThat has botta be one of the dumbest investors ever. He just has no idea that greasing palms will never get the Pacifica residents to approve development of some of their open space.
Posted by: blakestah at August 23, 2005 11:00 AM<oof> Developement in Pacifica is a disaster. That new hideous hotel ... malls facing parking lots rather than the ocean or common space ... Florida developers!</oof>
Posted by: Burnt Reynolds at August 23, 2005 11:08 AMi havent surfed in 2 weeks :(
blakestah, when is fall gonna come?
Posted by: sad person at August 23, 2005 11:13 AMi need this now!!!!

Posted by: sad person at August 23, 2005 11:15 AMNice shots mexi. It almost makes up for my lack of a summer vacation.
Fog is one of the things I love about OB. It gives it a spooky quality. I recall one sunny glassy day last year, the swell was filling in, and so was the crowd. A thick fog rolled in and everyone went home. The swell kept filling in. I stayed out for another hour or so, only seeing a few other people, just riding the currents as the swell came up, sliding down waves as they came to me. It was a good mellow day, waves were a bit mushy, but they were also easily duckdiveable. Good kook day. I finally got out of the water in this pea-soup fog and I was at Cabrillo. (I wonder if people have gone around Seal Rock on such days?) There was virtually no one on the beach. Like one of those apocolyspe movies. Luckily, the survivors didn't try to eat my brain.
Posted by: Andrew in Alameda at August 23, 2005 11:16 AMAll of Pacifica should be returned to "open space" and then restarted. Can't the city council or some environmental group just call a do-over for the whole game.
I mean jeez...trailer parks, public storage lots and auto body shops right on the cliffs, tract housing built up into the hillsides, sewage treatment right in the middle of the city's most prominent beach. What palms got greased to get all of that stuff approved? Were any of you guys around when Pacifica went through it's big growth phase (probably in the '50s through '70's)?
I say good luck to this guy. Seems like Pacifica could use another perspective on land use.
Posted by: cgl at August 23, 2005 11:23 AMEverybody remember to rush the beach when it gets good again. That way we'll all get plenty of waves and everyone will get along great! The more the merrier!
Posted by: Sutro Bathist at August 23, 2005 11:27 AMthats a rad shot sad person.
my prediction for when it gets good: worst crowds ever witnessed at ob. from the influx of surfers this year and the desperation factor of every surfer in this city.
Posted by: bagel at August 23, 2005 11:34 AMthanks bagel. hopefully the waves and paddle regulate the crowds. eh, theres room to spread out at least. so im still wondering, is fall gonna set in anytime soon?
Posted by: sad person at August 23, 2005 11:37 AMi am with bagel. this season will be the most crowded OB ever with lots of newbies, over confident beginners and a slue of new young ripper(where the hell did theycome from?)
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 11:39 AMjust got back from mex, this guy was there and killing it:
Posted by: bbr at August 23, 2005 11:41 AMhttp://www.surfline.com/video/video_trailer/2005/jsps/eyesdry_wm.cfm
Bagel, right you are. That was me posting as Sutro Bathist. Antman and I were discussing yesterday the explosion in kookdom that will result as soon as it gets good again. Kookdom being defined here by anybody who is a worse surfer than me (not many) and who potentially gets in my way. Rippers are allowed to be out with me when it gets good as long as they only rip waves I can't get to!
But seriously, it will be nuts this late Summer & early Fall as OB newbies have exponentially grown in the last year or two. Not complaining about the new influx of hot women surfing lately though!
The only way in my mind to avoid the inevitable frustration, collisions, dinged boards and even fights that are soon to come is to spread the word on surf etiquette. Not that anyone here needs to re-learn any of the unwritten rules...
I'll start it off with my favorite principle. "The person who is closest to the shoulder has the right to that wave, even if they are backdooring the peak". (That one should spark some discussion!)
~SS7
Posted by: surfseeker7 at August 23, 2005 11:45 AMHey, who posted that Shellac pic yesterday? I hit up that show last night with caveman and lerm. Those guys are sooo rad. Some of the intros/outros/etc. are kinda masturbatory but when their tunes get going, they are friggin' on. I once saw 'em play at a roller skating rink in Chicago with Fugazi and the Make Up. Great show...
Posted by: mwsf at August 23, 2005 11:47 AMwhat kind of music are those guys? i like that whole drums and guitar thing..
Posted by: bagel at August 23, 2005 11:57 AMwhat pacifica needs is a meth treatment program. the national guard needs to sweep in, catch all the meth heads and put them in jail for life.
the place has a problem with attracting bottom of the barrel transplants too. these people should be forced to fill out an application before moving to the city.
Posted by: grant at August 23, 2005 11:58 AMSteven King should move to pacifica in august and write a book.
Posted by: book worm at August 23, 2005 12:06 PMI predict within the next 4 weeks a triple overhead + swell that will keep almost everyone out of the water, followed by 1 day of double overhead offshore perfection and another day of 1.5 OH.
Posted by: Dennis at August 23, 2005 12:10 PMyou guys know the history of pacifica insofar as it was a place a lot of GI's were granted loans after ww2 to buy/build houses, yeah?
what you have as a result is like a little slice of middle america slapped next to the suburbs of san francisco. it's very red in its politics, and very blue collar in its values, and like most of red-wing, blue-collar america, the people who live in it are often basically stupid and sheep-like and not particularly enlightened in any meaningful way. it's really a sad little diorama.
lots of muscle cars and guys who couldn't get past 11th grade and old men who used to beat their wives but now can't even take a viagra because they've got blood pressure and cholesterol problems and don't even let me get started on the oh-my-god-honey-put-the-cheeseburger-down wives and women.
let them pave pacifica. the majority of the residents won't/don't care. if they try and extend anything further south the E.F'ers down here will just blow all the shit up before they even get any land graded.
damn, fog makes me cranky.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:11 PMdid someone say crank?
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:17 PMI haven't seen a muscel car in pacifica in a while. In the 80's linda mar was a full on camero, mullett and blue hawaii/local motion fest.
It was bad ass kids.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:26 PMhuh?
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:29 PMReally no, seriously, you guys should have been here yesterday. I mean 20 years ago.
(mexi, if i owe you for use of this image just let me know.)
Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at August 23, 2005 12:30 PM
Posted by: MxRxHx at August 23, 2005 12:35 PMSteve Smith had his paintings behind Shellac.

Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:37 PM
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:57 PM3to 5 That'ss be 10bucks please.
Art, we'll do the trade off this fall.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 12:59 PMmwsf, i'm the shellac fan and am now even more stoked on tonight's show! i love watching old cynical punks!!
chicago used to have the best music scene. touch n go records put out soo many good bands.
other upcoming goodness: circle, sigur ros
Posted by: rza at August 23, 2005 01:00 PMNice photos Mexi. Local kids tear it up don't they?
Posted by: Dennis at August 23, 2005 01:05 PM
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 01:15 PMyeah carol!

Posted by: e at August 23, 2005 01:22 PMI think crowds are relative. Will never forget some stranger hollering at me to paddle closer to their packed peak. Skill level ran the gamut but everyone either took turns or at worst, party waved. Of course that was an ideal crowd situation. Everyone just went with the flow. Conversely, I've been totally crowded by just 1 hyperactive, snakey paddler. Attitude is everything!
Hey I'm seeing sun.
Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at August 23, 2005 01:31 PMSo close...
http://www.wunderground.com/satellite/vis/1k/US/CA/San_Francisco.html
Posted by: flades at August 23, 2005 01:39 PMYou once said "music is the face of God." Can you elaborate on that?
I am convinced as many people are that we all have divine origins and that essentially everything is divine. We all come from the one, we all are in the one and we can never be apart from each other and the one. This is the personal conviction. It all comes down to an intellectual game in the end if you start to consider truth, goodness and beauty which are probably the essential attributes of what we consider to be God. If something is really true, it has to be beautiful. And music is beautiful, so it has to be true. God is the most beautiful of all the beautiful and the source of all beauty, so music has to be intimately acquainted with God in some way. Let me put it another way: truth without beauty is the atom bomb.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 01:55 PMSpeaking of Viagra, he sure is showing some age.


Posted by: at August 23, 2005 01:57 PM2000 ------ 2005
Dear in the Headlights........Dear in the Headlights.
Posted by: Drift at August 23, 2005 02:04 PMDeer, Deer
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 02:05 PMRe: that vid up top
What is up with Tim Curran's weird, fake soul arch every time he pulls in?
Got some fun ones down in around SD area last weekend. Man, they get so much better surf and conditions down there.
Posted by: Hb at August 23, 2005 02:17 PMMachado is the ruler!!!
(what's up with the Tron wetsuits however?)
Posted by: Burnt Reynolds at August 23, 2005 02:20 PMi'm wid you hb, that arch thing is weak by comparison:



Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at August 23, 2005 02:28 PMor
or
Anytime Paul, now if I can only remember how to surf. 2+ months dry, ouch!
Yeah its gonna get crazy , I know it. Hopefully this fall we can self-regulate a bit out there; spread the etiquitte, tone down or delay our reports, leave the cell at home, and not paddle out directly to the crowded peaks, zero-tolerance board ditching etc. Like SS said, attitude is everything!
Posted by: artifact at August 23, 2005 02:32 PMSurf Cell Swarm
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 02:36 PMi dunno. i haven't seen any more people out this summer than last on comparable days.
Posted by: kloo at August 23, 2005 02:40 PMPacifica full of republicans? Don't think so.

Posted by: at August 23, 2005 02:51 PMDon't change a thing about the town. This is my view taken 3 minutes ago from one of those 'nasty' apartments:
Remind me again, what's bad about Pacifica?
Yep that is sun btw, a wee hole in the soup.
i 2nd ZERO TOLERANCE on board ditching.
Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at August 23, 2005 02:52 PMBoard Ditch=
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 02:58 PMDo not pass go
You will be deported straight back to Lindy
The moment you start to talk about playing music, you destroy music. It cannot be talked about. It can only be played, enjoyed and listened to.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 03:15 PM
Posted by: Old and In the Way Fan at August 23, 2005 03:21 PMscott henderson rips!

Posted by: e at August 23, 2005 03:30 PMis that Grisman on the mandolin?
Posted by: e at August 23, 2005 03:36 PMyep!
One of the best.
Posted by: Hb at August 23, 2005 03:43 PMw/o Jerry on banjo isn't it "Old and in the Grey"
Posted by: flades at August 23, 2005 04:01 PMlate post. the kids are back and it is nuts on
the hilltop.
nice shots mexi....looking forward to the catch
up on the latest at the soda. sounds like mario
gave you the what for that i was sure my buddy mo
was gonna catch.
as per the crowd issue. let's get some farking waves
and then see what happens. personally i am with
dennis—OB will regulate OB. but i agree with ss
in that smiles and +'s are way way better than the
'tood.
he e is that scott "bar-kays" henderson?
Posted by: korewin at August 23, 2005 04:06 PMSOULFINGER!
cheers.
You better 'fro-lieve it!

Posted by: MxRxHx at August 23, 2005 04:10 PMand that looks like bill monroe far right.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:19 PMBoard ditching. I got served my own lesson 6 years ago on why not to be a board ditching kook, which I most certainly was. I was out at Noriega on a super hard off-shore day, about 6 foot - yes it was good out there - and I got caught inside and like a massive kook ditched my board. Did it hit some other dude? A local who screamed at me? No, better than that. In a wonderful piece of ancient greek god like punishment for my hubris, my 7 foot egg shaped fun board went straight up in the air, blew around like a twig for 3 seconds, and landed the nose rail square on my unsuspecting kooky face, splitting open a three inch gash over my right eye, and requiring 13 stitches at UCSF ER (hot resident female doc sewed me up!).
Think I ditch my board anymore? Well, maybe on the biggest of OB days when nobody's looking and I'm soiling my wettie, but other than that, no...
Posted by: surfseeker7 at August 23, 2005 04:21 PMRE: board ditching. It does suck, but...
I've witnessed even the older longboard crew at Kelly's ditch their boards when faced with a big 'un. They usually try to push it over the top, but I've seen 'em go flying--headin' my way. When I see that coming, I dive deep. I'd hate to get nailed with one of them skegs. Best thing is to keep a safe distance. Everyone has a mishap now and then--I would expect a pro not to ditch, but everyone always has an "oh shit" moment at some point. Mishaps are not outta place. Keep a safe distance and give a bro some space.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:32 PMI saw someone ditch their board once, too.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:37 PMWhat I took away from Surfseeker's story is that getting hurt is a good way to meet hot women with high earning potential.
I'd be surprised if this year is much different than last year: we get a few days when everyone goes out, first big swell hits and everyone is gone. I think September is the best time for everyone to be out...while the salmon and their salmon-eating predators are moving near shore.
Posted by: Andrew in Alameda at August 23, 2005 04:40 PMDitch the ditching ditcher. I'm ditching out of here.
Posted by: Burnt Reynolds at August 23, 2005 04:41 PMe, you can't miss 'em this time.
sep 17 sat The Fucking Champs, Zombi, Boyjazz
Posted by: lerm at August 23, 2005 04:43 PMat the Bottom of the Hill, S.F. a/a $10/$12
Dennis I agree with your prediction.
3rd week Septmba we always get groundswell.
Duckdive no bail gets you to the lineup faster.
Posted by: toneman at August 23, 2005 04:44 PMBoard Ditching from the famed Kelly's Cove Crew??
Getta outta here....They dont ditch their boards. They're ALL perfect and they're the nicest most friendly bunch of guys out there. They may not always be right but they're never wrong.
Who am I kidding?? They're jerks.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:45 PMMexi
Posted by: toneman at August 23, 2005 04:48 PMGreat Centro shots
Maybe I'm a puss but I've had my 6'4" (usually super easy to duck dive) ripped completely out of my hands under water a bunch of times trying to duck dive good 6 - 8 foot waves at OB. the unintentional ditch sucks. I'm not out there in bigger waves, unless the swell comes up after I'm out or they're really mushy.
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:50 PMWhy come to this web site to call out the Kelly Cove Crew?
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:52 PMThey are well, at Kelly's Cove?
Just go tell them what you think and spare the rest of us the useless post.
PRAY FOR WAVES!!!!
Posted by: at August 23, 2005 04:56 PMPeople ditch their boards everywhere.
Posted by: Kaiser at August 23, 2005 05:03 PMHere's my equation so you know how far away you must be from me to remain safe in the water:
Longboard 9'+ Leash 9'= 18'+ Kook Buffer Zone 10' = 28' (Minium safe distance).
You've been warned, if you're closer than 28' you may not be safe.
Posted by: Steve at August 23, 2005 05:06 PMNike has been testing a new leash system for begniners.
the system consists of a bluetooth enalbled heart rate monitor sensor you wear on your chest. which sends a signal to a CPU affixed to the leash/leashstrap assembly. instead of the traditional molded, pinned, leash cord to strap interface. the engineers have replaced it with magnets.
the user can configure heart rate and urine/fecal level thresholds. the UI is very straight forward and allows you store presets for different conditions and spots.
if your still with me you've probably figured out that when a user lets go of thier board out of fear the sensor sends the "packet" to the cpu which revereses the polarity of the magnets dis-engaging the leash and strap releasing the board as the wave passes. forcing the user a swim to retrieve it.
the initial worry was that of un-manned boards in the surfline. however during the tests the users had a greater fear of swimming without thier board and put a great effort in holding on.
it's salt water battery powered. it should be at your local shops early rOctober.
Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at August 23, 2005 05:06 PMall this talk of ditching makes me wanna ditch work. i think i might have to hit up that secret DOH spot in mwsf's hood tonight.
Posted by: j at August 23, 2005 05:10 PMIf I drive the ball into the lake on #5 tomorrow, I am ditching my driver like you have never seen before.

Posted by: Kaiser at August 23, 2005 05:12 PME's got dibs on the one in the middle....

Posted by: Kaiser at August 23, 2005 05:14 PMwill there be waves at linda mar right now to longboard? ob looks too blown out for me to want to get out of my car. im hungry too. i hate summer.
Posted by: bagel at August 23, 2005 05:26 PMwell im going to go look anyway
Posted by: bagel at August 23, 2005 06:03 PMSpeaking of the unintentional ditch dont U hate it when you're executing a ballsy duck dive and your board gets stripped from your clutches and is driven backwards perilously close to your nuts and goes thru your legs? Try doing that in front of a Kelley's local surfrider and wait for the smiles!
Posted by: antman at August 23, 2005 06:32 PMI looked today. And looked some more...
Posted by: seasnail at August 23, 2005 06:44 PMI agree with Pat Robertson, lets take that Pinko Bastard out and get a country that has some real good oil!
Some things you cannot control.
Posted by: Physics at August 23, 2005 06:45 PMon board ditching. Not acceptable in general, never when there's people around, and deserving of harshness if it is inflicted on you by some limp wrister. That being said, sometimes da wave just removes it, and sometimes, all by yourself, you puss. Hanging on as well and for as long as possible seems to usually result in the board a) closer so it can be retrieved more quickly, and b) (more importantly) not KO'ing some poor schmuck who had the misfortune of being near you. Always feels good when fred is swimming for his board and you're powering outside. Few things in the surf lineup scarier than a loose board in the grips of the whitewater heading straight for you. Surprising more people don't get taken out, especially in hyper crowds.
Posted by: banjo at August 23, 2005 06:59 PMBe kind, look behind.
Posted by: 2 cents at August 23, 2005 07:10 PMI'm glad there isn't that much oil in Mexico.
Posted by: Mexi at August 23, 2005 08:58 PMSurfline site, Bali:
Posted by: SurfAuburn at August 23, 2005 09:47 PM"http://www.surfline.com/surfline/livecams/report.cfm?alias=ulucam&view=4"
I ditched my board once... then I woke up.
Posted by: MSG at August 23, 2005 10:09 PMDon't ever paddle behind me! I just bought a new leash over the internet from the UK. The Animal Chord. 1/2 thick or whatever in CM's. 10 feet of pure whitewater thrashing insurance! That sucker is going to stretch all the way to the beach, biiach! Much better than those old early style black cord leashes with the rope inside--BWAAAANNGGG!!
Posted by: Ditch Master at August 23, 2005 10:30 PM