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the party's over.

Well, maybe not quite over everywhere.
But... where we surfed it was pretty frustrating.
Same beautiful offshore flow as days past.
Same radiant sunshine.
However,
Waves breaking mushily on the outside, then here or there on the inside.
Difficult to find the right zones.
Caught one zippy left but my legs were pretty stiff from sitting immobile on my board for the previous 20 minutes.
Maybe other stretches of coast are working better?
Could be worth a little drive if you have time?

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My neighbors have an 8th grader who's deciding which high school to attend. He goes to public school now and is pretty bright and creative. He wants to go to SOTA (School of the Arts) for creative writing but the school only accepts 5 kids each year for that program. He's also considering Lowell but acceptance is fiercly competitive. He looked at Lick Wilmerding and dug it but it's $25,000 a year. St. Ignatius, Sacred heart and Urban are also crazy expensive. He's kinda scared of Lincoln high school but is worried that's where he's going to end up. It makes me nervous as a future parent (way future!). The schooling situation in the city seems pretty dicey. You either fight and scrap to get your kids in the very few quality elementary schools or you suck it up and drop $20,000 a year for private school. Then, if your kid is in public school in 8th grade he/she has to go through entrance-exams, possible rejection, deciding if they want to focus on a particular discipline, etc.. this is in 8th grade, not 11th! gnarly.

Youth Brigade:
well i've been around the country
and i've met a lot of kids
some kids are smart and some kids are dumb
but i don't pass judgement they're just having fun
some kids get fucked up and others refrain
but that's what makes the world so great no one should be the same
the kids of the future you can see it in their eyes
they must overcome nationality if the world is to survive

and we'll sink with california when it falls into the sea

?tsop tsrif

Chai tea and a muffin

Posted by: MxRxHx at November 22, 2005 10:09 AM

are we going to see anymore of artifact's pictures today? re-live the stoke..
why did bruce kill his site. some jackass bitching about how photos posted days later lead to crowding? i heard there was some video too...what up?

Posted by: dsx at November 22, 2005 10:12 AM

bruce! that sux. bring back the photos!

Posted by: lerm at November 22, 2005 10:20 AM

Make it happen:

http://surfermag.com/features/mavs/

Posted by: Kaiser at November 22, 2005 10:20 AM

Bring back Bruce's site. Anyone that knows about the site also knows about ocean beach so what's the point? Let's stop all this holier than thou local bullshit. Ocean beach is in a major city. IT IS NOT A SECRET!

Posted by: john at November 22, 2005 10:25 AM

Food for thought: this AM was more cowded than last Tuesday AM.

Posted by: MxRxHx at November 22, 2005 10:27 AM

bruce's video is great and surfhumor.com is mostly santa cruz photos anyway. It would be cool if the video didn't say Ocean Beach or san francisco anywhere, but whatever. The video would be just as good without any naming. Bruce does a commendable job of showcasing wipeouts and not so perfect waves.

Bruce basically rules!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 10:31 AM

I hear ya about the high school issues. My kid's in the 8th grade and we're in exactly the same position. SOTA, Lowell both really long shots. And Lincoln looks like it may be where my kid ends up, especailly since we're in the locale. But even though it's big (Lowell is larger), I know a kid who graduated last summer who only has good things to say about the school, so it's not all bad......

Posted by: limevoodoo at November 22, 2005 10:34 AM

Gateway is great school, it is across from the Fillmore and is an alternative highschool with small classes. It is my favorite school in the city with an emphasis on creativity and exploration. Students take trips thouighout the city weekely

Posted by: Mexi at November 22, 2005 10:35 AM

GW is public too.

Posted by: Mexi at November 22, 2005 10:37 AM

I hear Mountain Biking is the new Bouldering. If anyone wants to pick up a nice used one,
http://www.craigslist.org/sby/bik/112882605.html

Note the price is just about the cost of a new board 4 me!

Posted by: Tazmon at November 22, 2005 10:38 AM

Gave up sitting on the outside and waited on inside for the nice peaks. Took a few on thehead but the strategy worked great, fast little barrels and wackable walls.

Is it me or does it seem that everytime I see a chick out there she is trying to shoulder hop folks.

Posted by: squid at November 22, 2005 10:40 AM

We toured Gateway a couple of weeks ago and liked it, especially the small class size. It's certainly on the list.......

Posted by: limevoodoo at November 22, 2005 10:40 AM

cool. i didn't know about Gateway.
didn't know that Lowell is bigger than Lincoln! holy huge!
There were some crazy racial gang fights at Lincoln a few years back, i think some kid got stabbed or shot. Huge groups of kids used to hang at the library on 23rd and Taraval after school and i used to watch the baseball games at the park there on my way home from work. Pretty full-on inner-city vibe at that school.

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 10:44 AM

Bruce - I wish you would reconsider and ignore the negativity of a few ignorant complaining fools. Most of us really appreciate your work and enjoy the photo's. You should recognize that only a few people who frequent this site bring nothing but bad vibes.

Please don't let the opinions of a few whiners influence your decision to close your site. Blakestah and E have both endured the same criticism.

Posted by: Dennis at November 22, 2005 10:49 AM

I was already on a downward trend in high school. I peaked somewhere in the second grade in between crayon drawings, telling time and eating paste, I seem to have fallen behind everyone else.

Is it fair to say that Thursday morning will be super-extra retardo crowded? The wise wavehounds will wait until the PM, when your weekend warrior kooks are stuffed with turkey, leaving the translplants without families each an empty peak.

Posted by: Andrew in Alameda at November 22, 2005 10:50 AM

If anyone actually watched that video, you will have seen that Bruce goes way out of his way to caution viewers about the power of Ocean Beach, and how it is not for the beginners or the faint of arm strength.

It is not until 2/3rds of the way in that any good rides are shown. And even these are not like the gems that I was riding this last weekend.

My wife and I are just getting into the school search thing (our daughter turns three in January). From what we have found. The public elementary schools are what you put into them. This is true outside the City as well. Unless you want to pay top dollar, you have to get involved to make your school work, but you will be rewarded if you put in the time.

The real tough situation is Middle schools, it seems like Elementary and High get all the focus.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 22, 2005 10:50 AM

let's vote for ALEX MARTINS. the guy is charging waves at Mavs as deep and BIG as his humility. can you imagine our local boy on the main list. i bet he would kick some major "traseros"

http://surfermag.com/features/mavs/

cheers,
christian

Posted by: Christian at November 22, 2005 10:57 AM

Well, being actively involved in your kid's elementary and middle schools certainly means you know what's going on and gives you a chance to improve/change things. My daughter went to Lakeshore, and we totally loved it. She's at Aptos now, which is good, but has much more of that inner city vibe e mentioned.

Posted by: limevoodoo at November 22, 2005 11:00 AM

I voted for Alex.

Squid - it's you. The women surfers in my hood charge it.

Posted by: Dennis at November 22, 2005 11:01 AM

yeah, maybe it was a bit more crowded today than last tuesday, but everyone seemed happy and satiated. i think it might be more crowded because the waves have been good for so long, eventually you have to clue in, with or without the internet or whatever. so yeah, Bruce, hook us up!
i didn't get to surf over the weekend because i was laying tile in my bathroom so it'll be ready for the little grom's first bath. i need to live vicariously through the video.
btw, it was working where i was this morning. i like the little fast waves. i would be a really good surfer if it were like this everyday. i did a roundhouse but fell after i banked it off the top. still seeking that illusive barrel. how come everybody else can find it?

Posted by: steamwand at November 22, 2005 11:02 AM

si's pretty good school, except a bunch of faculty just left...so i'm not sure how some of the new teachers are. the remaining teachers and the old timers are quite inspiring and really know how to pass down their knowledge, wisdom and virtues. there are hints of prejudice and racisim, and while the jesuits continue to shout messages of community and "being men and women for others", the community remains cliquish...the football players and athletes (and yes the athletes do think they own the school, the "cool" rich kids, the indie kids, thespians, your asians that tend to stick together etc etc... most of the kids seem to think the motto is quite cliche and really don't care about world and social issues. the big downside about si is the price. the jesuits will squeeze you dry...donations...charity...fundraisers...tuition hikes about almost every 2 years i believe...but i still find it to be a good school producing some well rounded students and academically competitive in the upper tier of students...just my two cents on si to help with your decision

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:04 AM

Ah, nice to have a day off of surfing! Well, not really but I guess the run is officially over now.

That sucks about the SF school system. I guess that is why people move to the 'burbs to get away from stuff like that. In San Mateo county, kids can pick which high school they want to go to. There is an application process as well but nothing to the degree it seems to be in SF. At least the elementary schools seem to be good in SF.

Posted by: Kaiser at November 22, 2005 11:04 AM

Alex got my vote at 9:00 a.m. this morning!

Posted by: Kaiser at November 22, 2005 11:06 AM

allusive?
there is not a single female surfer from mainland u.s. on the wct. i wonder why that is.
lack of support? or what? i always knew that i could not become a professional surfer because i didn't have the beautiful blond hair, hot bod, etc. that and lack of talent was maybe a factor.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:08 AM

Voted for Alex- Don't know the guy but sure seems like he deserves the spot.

Bruce don't sweat it, bring it back brother!

Hey if anyone found a 1mm Ripcurl hooded vest @ VFW vicinity (sorry I'm name dropping) yesterday, your karmatic payback will be huge. There will definately be beer involved in the deal.
Muchas Gracias!

Too busy to work on pics- Only took a few since there was little daylight left and had to go paddle out- but I'll repost yesterday's (since it was late)- others hopefully tomorrow?

Posted by: artifact at November 22, 2005 11:18 AM

if anything that video makes OB looks just plain stupid. it shows OB at it's friendliest (headhigh, mushy, offshore, not too bad of a paddle), while bruce does his best bruce brown impression claiming how OB is one of the "heaviest waves in the world"... kind of a joke if you ask me....

Posted by: choda boy at November 22, 2005 11:21 AM

Artifact - bummer about your hood. I picked one up as you suggested and love it. Now I need to get thicker boots. My feet have been getting cold lately. I think it's gonna be a chilly winter in the water.

BTW, yesterday I meant to say I could "not" afford my dream team list of equipment, not could "get". A correction of little value to anyone albeit.

Posted by: Dennis at November 22, 2005 11:31 AM

My experience teaching in inner city schools have shown me that parents are the biggest factor in educating our youth. Kids that come from good homes (family bonds, love, involvement, reading and structure) will thrive regardless of the school. But a good teacher is also important, new teachers are generally worthless and struggle to survive. If you can, try to get you child in an experienced (not too experienced, boring) teachers class.
My 2 cents... My kids will attend SF public schools.

Posted by: Mexi at November 22, 2005 11:32 AM

Anyone ever try heroin?
Why do all the rockers love it so much?
Hendrix, Navarro, Cobain, Clapton, Jerry Garcia, Miles, Coltrane, etc etc etc.

I tried it once (snorted) but it didn't have that much of an effect. I tried opium a few times and enjoyed the mellow, slightly hallucinagenic high, but was bumming for days afterwards each time. Irritable and grumpy.

maybe opiates aren't for me.

Posted by: curious at November 22, 2005 11:37 AM

dude you should definately try injecting it...did you see "Ray" all the greats do it. and its pretty easy to kick the habit, you just have to go into rehab for 1 month and almost die. Heroin and Coke together are called a speed ball or eight ball, thats usually the best. i would go with that combo first.

Posted by: heroin rocks at November 22, 2005 11:40 AM

Small but real fun today. A little barrel action on a 9-6 is always a trip.

Bruce is a a stand-up guy and does not deserve criticism. Period. Showing surf that is already gone has no correlation to future crowding. Twenty years ago a case might have been made for trying to keep a low-key profile here. SF is a major surf destination now. There is no turning back from that. With the fickle nature of OB there is no risk that naming any area will change the trend. It's all visible from the road and known by all who care to know.

Schools...arghh! I've got one year to decide how to approach it. I've done my homework. It is still daunting and also relatively unknowable this far in advance. Decreasing child population, the politics of identity, progressives vs. moderates power struggles, mystery budgets, expired consent decrees, union negotiations, schools closing, a thieving governor and on and on.......

Posted by: kdalle at November 22, 2005 11:41 AM

who really cares this is the internet, the information super highway. no room for internet police, like old crusty locals trying to protect one of the most fickle stretches of coastline this side of the mississippi and next to a major american city. but its cool bruce your pics are awesome and alwayse get me pumped and get my friends in other locations jealous, dont mind keeping the secret. ill vote for alex. my friend smoked heroin one time wasnt to into it. seems like a grubby drug but it supposedly turns everyone into a genuis probably not everyone though really..it was fun this morning and lots of rippers out

Posted by: bagel at November 22, 2005 11:42 AM

shit.. i guess i surfed the wrong spot this morning. Dangnabbit!!!!

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 11:42 AM

Just as long as you don't name the spot, don't include identifing markers and post after the swell event. It's all good, we all dig photos especially of our friendz!

Posted by: Picstah at November 22, 2005 11:48 AM

The shots of that kid are so cool!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:48 AM

Argghghg!!!!!!!!!

i hate surfing when good waves are a few miles away and i'm not there!

arhahrharsarhhhhahhghghgh!!!

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 11:48 AM

Jimmy Page liked that stuff too.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:53 AM

chicks aren't the only ones shoulder hopping out there, Squid. It actually seems as if almost everyone paddles on the shoulder and watches the surfer at the peak, hoping s/he will fall. I wish everyone would stop doing this -- it pushes down the lip and I have to go around the barrel sections rather than through them.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:53 AM

Foam-ballers!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:56 AM

Maybe I was just lucky, but this morning was one of the funnest surf days ever for me. Lots of long peelers.

Posted by: kloo at November 22, 2005 12:00 PM

sshhhhhh!! just zip it already about the good conditions.. i got skunked out there in horrible waves!!!!

sorry.. cranky..

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 12:02 PM

First E stopped alluding to even one single specific detail of his morning surfs and lies about the locations of photos posted on niceness.org. Blakestah writes up some vague story that he is leaving town. and now Bruce just straight shut his site down.

I hope at least that the guy behind this showed up with some type of weapon in order to scare you all that bad.

But then again, mother nature gave us one of the best run of perfect surf days in years on the last day of Blakestah's site. Maybe he can make a public "retirement" again.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 12:08 PM

There is some juice headed our way. When's the big stuff hitting us--Thursday? Friday? Saturday definitely. Just wondering. Anyone have any links to pics from the recent swell that hit Hawaii? I saw some H-U-G-E waves on some news sites.

Posted by: amigoism at November 22, 2005 12:10 PM

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 12:21 PM

Please don’t read to much into shutting down the site; it wasn’t a tantrum on my part. But it occurred to me that I could share video, photos, and bad jokes without going national. I mean, if you do a Google search on SurfHumor you’ll see sites all over the world are linking to it (just goes to show there’s NO shortage of bad taste!). I’m not making any money off of advertising or anything, so what’s the point? The site is really for old and new friends.

So I’ve saved the home page under a different URL and will send out the link to all the SF and SC crew to create a quasi-intranet. This way, I can be more confident that I’m not advertising spots to people who don’t already know they exist. BTW, while the video was over the top, I do think we need to be cautious about understating the Beach’s punch. I watched a few beginners get thoroughly beat over the weekend. I’m still convinced that the local crew must be in better shape that most of the guys who enjoy a dry hair paddle out at the Lane.

E- Is the Stone’s new CD too retro for a cutting edge musician like you? I think it’s well worth the money, if for nothing else than the riffs on “Look what the cat dragged in.” That can’t be Keith Richards, can it? I didn’t think his arthritis would allow it!

Sorry for the long post.

Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2005 12:23 PM

it's a conspiracy.

Posted by: lone surfer theory at November 22, 2005 12:25 PM

My son went to Gateway High School in its early days when it was located at 7th & Irving. He has always been a real bright kid – off the charts on all the standardized tests and in the all Gifted And Talented Education Program (G.A.T.E.) classes in middle-school. However, he was beyond bored and hostile toward school by the 8th grade. Carrot and/or stick approaches had little impact. We were at a loss about what to do, since there was no way we could afford any of the private schools and seriously afraid he would get lost in the shuffle at a big, public high school like Balboa (his designated neighborhood school). At the time we thought Gateway was a good alternative: small class size, interesting programs, an overall progressive attitude towards education. In retrospect Gateway may have been a little too progressive, or maybe it just hadn’t had a chance to really get its act together, or maybe it just was not the right place for our kid. He ended up bailing out early, taking his high school equivalency exam and enrolling for a single semester at City College. Now he’s working full-time and says he doesn’t want to go back to school until he figures out what he wants to study. His mom and I are less than thrilled with the way things have gone so far. Despite being very involved in our son’s education since preschool, we feel like we missed something along the way in getting across the message of the importance of education as a way of enhancing his life. It’s a drag (and likely our failing) that he’s gonna have to take on some hard lessons before he gets that message. There comes a point where you realize that there is only so much you can do as a parent in order to influence your kid’s future. There comes a point where you have to back off and let them sink or swim; but always be there to grab ‘em by the hair if they really start to drown.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 12:26 PM

i would like to see the video...can you post a direct link here?

Posted by: dsx at November 22, 2005 12:26 PM

e, it was better this weekend really i think...im not seeing the video on bruces site, am i not looking in the rihgt place?

Posted by: bagel at November 22, 2005 12:27 PM

Bruce - please include on that list you send the new url to: matheson@sfsu.edu

BTW curious - heroin is REALLY dangerous.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 12:33 PM

amigoism-check this out. I posted it late yesterday afternoon. Takes a while to load if you're not on a high speed connection. But, there are some effing huge waves, great pits and serious beatdowns:

http://w02.easy-sharing.com/97405/gweefaoto2pMLH3PWUJL/pipe320.mov

Bruce-IMO you have never revealed any "secret" spots. It's your work and you will handle it the way you want to. That's the way it should be. FWIW my vote is for you to keep the site up if you want to. It only adds to the stoke and takes nothing away from those delusional enough to believe that you are detracting from surfing in any way.

Posted by: kdalle at November 22, 2005 12:34 PM

I'm going to dump the corny narration and repost, hopefully tonight. I need to fix the internal links on the site to point back to the new home page, as well.

I'll also put a form on the blank page so you can contact me if you need the URL. Not trying to create a secret society or anything.

Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2005 12:40 PM

bruce is the man!
One of the nicest people i've met.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 12:42 PM

Jimmie - I wish I had taken the time to figure out what I wanted to study, instead of diving in head first at 18 and signing up for a major that I had no interest in. I had a blast in college (nothing to do with studying), but would have had a much better education had I worked for a few years, gotten an understanding of the real world, then enrolled in school to pursure a specific passion or interest.

I too voted for Alex.

Posted by: Q at November 22, 2005 12:46 PM

Jimmie, Schools not for everyone, basic skills are but higher ed is not. I wish there were more trade schools. it seems our society has lost respect for craftsmanship, and success is only measured in academics. Sad.

Posted by: Mexi at November 22, 2005 12:58 PM

Q - thanks for the kind reassurance. I'm sure my kid will do just fine in the long run. But as a parent, you have this irrational hope that you can just pour insight into your kid's head so they won't have to learn stuff the hard way.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 01:00 PM

Heroine is no laughing matter, My brother died of an overdose 6 years ago.

Posted by: Mexi at November 22, 2005 01:01 PM

Hello niceness crew.

1. Christian is right. Why not vote for a SF ripper, and one of the most humble people you'll ever meet? Do it!

2. Why does everyone complain about crowds so much? At least all of us get to surf. There are people who are land-locked, or who have never even seen the ocean in their life. I don't get to surf for 3 months (by choice though, so I'm not complaining). Relax.. Try GIVING a wave to someone for a change. Live like Jay.

3. To rebut what I just said, why IS OB so crowded some times? It's a fucking scary spot. I hope it doesn't happen, but maybe a drowning needs to happen to scare people away?

4. Barcelona is AMAZING. My friend and I have been pulling sessions all day skating until our legs are like jello. Weird to feel jello/noodle legs, instead of arms. We've hit all the crazy spots you see in videos all the time. Beautiful city too. Even more artistic and influential than SF. Every where you look, there's some crazy sculpture, painting, or amazing building that completely defies any degree of "normality." We've only explored a tiny fraction of what is on tap in this city, but we have yet to be disappointed. So, I'll have a few skate photos online soon. My other site went down. Some kind of maintenance problem or something, so I put a few other pictures most people have probably already seen, along with a few new ones at aloha2ian.blogspot.com

I hope everyone is having a great day. Just be stoked most of you get to surf. Smile, and maybe be thankful since thanksgiving is coming up. They don't even celebrate it over here (obviously), so grub on some turkey, or cranberry sauce if you're a vegetarian, for me.

Here's a few photos from me to all of you. Happy Early Thanksgiving, since I won't be around!


Somewhere where the water is REALLY cold.


It was OK that day...

PEEEEEACE!

Posted by: Ian at November 22, 2005 01:12 PM

great timing Ian!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 01:17 PM

kloo: arg, I wish I'd drifted south! Ended up stuck in a pack and couldn't get away. Oh well, landed one elevator drop.

Props to Bruce for pics, stoke, and yes, caveats about surfing the beach. This place can be farking scary dangerous if you don't study it. I can't imagine getting a beating like I did yesterday on a blind "oh it's pretty " go out. Eeeek. Of course I should talk because my wave riding is soooo kooky. But paranoia...yes, all there!

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at November 22, 2005 01:18 PM

mexi - I absolutely agree, and it's not only craftskills but also the less MARKETABLE academics that are grossly under valued in this society. I know more than a few M.A.s and Phds (mostly in education and the arts) who make nowhere near the kind of living they should.
BTW, condolences re: your brother. Heroin is not a funny topic.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 01:20 PM

Digicamhead has his eyes on you. Be warned.
Keep posting pic's and talking your endless surf trash. Go rape another place - leave this one alone - it does not belong to you - it belongs to us - now BEAT IT!

Posted by: CAMHEAD at November 22, 2005 01:22 PM

Hey kdalle,

That page you posted yesterday and today doesn't load. What gives? I wanna check out that video.

Posted by: MSG at November 22, 2005 01:26 PM

Jimmie, your boy sounds just like me at that age. I wish I had taken the time to explore and find the things that really called to me instead of following others' expectations and going to college not really knowing what I was doing there. As a result, I didn't find the things I would become passionate about until I was too old to really excel at them. Those things have nothing to with formal education but they are the ones that taught me the value of hard work, delayed gratification, personal honesty and integrity. Having learned them later than most, I've still put them to use in a way that most parents would be very proud of. I'm a successful, stable, respected, man with a great family of my own but I still regret that I didn't find the things that let me grow into that person sooner. I hope you help put your son in a position to find those things for himself.

Posted by: iamsam at November 22, 2005 01:31 PM

nice post iamsam. I still haven't found those things in my life. Am struggling to find them.

Mexi. that's heavy about your brother.

happy thanksgiving everyone. i'm out until tuesday so the new postings won't happen unless Kaiser or MWSF wants to step up.

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 01:35 PM

Most "locals" are transplants who moved to the middle of the beach.Next time someone cliams to be a local ask them where they went to High School.

Posted by: Kellys at November 22, 2005 01:47 PM

most locals are loco

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 02:01 PM

there are no locals in SF, there are 2 locals in S.C. and they moved last year.

localism died with the explosion of the mid 30s begining surfer.

there are a few localized spots here and there, some more so than others. a few central CA spots, some L.A. and Laguna beach spots, apart from the scene in hawaii there are no locals in CA on a large scale and certainly not in SF.

Posted by: locals moved out. at November 22, 2005 02:05 PM

big ups e!


I thought most locals were from marin? I know the only locals are the eskimos really though the mayans might call them trannys

Posted by: bagel at November 22, 2005 02:07 PM

Bruce - If you shut down the site, then
THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON!

Seriously, I have only props for your site, do what you want to do with it. The 5 shot sequence you shot of me from a year or two ago still serves as my work machine's desk top for the five day week.

E- you should drop the link off the main page when you get time. No reason to frustrate people.


Posted by: friend #1 at November 22, 2005 02:14 PM

My father-in-law just got a place on the Big Island south of Hilo for February and has invited me, wifey, and our little 5 mo. old out for a week!
Is it worth lugging a board? How about renting? Thanks for any useful info!

Posted by: Sander at November 22, 2005 02:16 PM

I'm local to where ever I'm located at the moment.

Posted by: Dennis at November 22, 2005 02:16 PM

MSG-here's a direct link. 43 MB!

http://w02.easy-sharing.com/97405/PQsglQbEDc8D74NN3FnpMO/pipe320.mov

Posted by: kdalle at November 22, 2005 02:27 PM

I've heard that Leadership High School is a good, small school. It may be worth checking. SF

Posted by: teacher at November 22, 2005 02:29 PM

OK, eff me. MSG, you have to use the link halfway down the page the reads:
http://w02.easy-sharing.com/97405/PQsglQbEDc8D74NN3FnpMO/pipe320.mov

Posted by: kdalle at November 22, 2005 02:32 PM

Oops, "locals moved out"--I forgot the white man stole the lands from the true natives. Whites can't claim sh*t. Local this, local that...boo hoo. We forget how our country was overrun with gringos claiming everything in their path. If you're not Native American or Mexican quit complaining.

Posted by: Boo Hoo at November 22, 2005 02:37 PM

Obviously there are different definitions of a local…I will not ever understand why anyone would be so quick to disregard the value that a true old time local brings to a surf spot. Old time locals are a gift, at least that is how I feel. Talking to an old timer is rightous. Sorry to those of you missing that experience.

Posted by: web at November 22, 2005 02:51 PM

its over
http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/pub/data/text/FZUS56/KMTR.TXT

I'm in love with the blond girl you posted yesterday kaiser. and they way she looks at me, i think she likes me. how can i meet her?

Posted by: obro at November 22, 2005 03:10 PM

but the word "local" to me has suck a negative connentation, old timers are cool but i think since ive been a kid the word Local has brought on images of beatings and negativity, i mean that movie back to the beach had a gang of dangerous locals not to mention a knife toting matt archibold in point break and the hui(all movies of my generation) there was no locals in big wedensday, just party crashers..every single spot in cali and the world has a history and personalitys which are awesome and another reason were all lucky to be surfers, legends, storys and all that shit..there are positve local guys which are cool and alwayse the most inspiring to me but theres the looser thug kooks that usually cant surf yet have the biggest mouths that suck but they are awesome in thier own way to i guess i dont know what the hell im talking about, whatever..

Posted by: bagel at November 22, 2005 03:11 PM

One of the advantages of getting older is that I can simply slide over next to the older crew in most lineups and the youngsters figure I'm just another old local and about half the oldtimers aren't sure that they don't recognize me from high school.
There's a certain hollow arrogance in deriding the whole local thing - almost similar in a weird way to whistling past the graveyard. At the same time, there is something distincly pathetic in raging, ranting localism coming from anyone past their teens.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 03:13 PM

anyone who has stayed in the same place their whole life should be angry.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 03:21 PM

Ian you're the man!

bagel that was some funny shit.

Posted by: e at November 22, 2005 03:24 PM

this blog is again fading into bad vibe territory...share the stoke. lets see some more pics and video from the weekend. best waves in years and people are talkng about locals again and vibing bruce. sad...
you guys should move to LA or Hawaii where constant bad vibes are the norm...or maybe you are from LA and are bringing your overcrowded hate to SF? as crowded as OB was the past few days its still not Malibu or Newport or Trestles or Salt Creek etc.
i can still find myself at DOH sloat with 3 guys out more often that with 30. he happy. otherwise move out.

Posted by: dsx at November 22, 2005 03:25 PM

Must "local" behavior involves bullying, yelling or engaging, or threatening to engage, in violent acts. There is no "hollow arrogance" in deriding such behavior. Respect is earned, and does not flow from the simple fact that someone has paddled out at the same spot year after year.

Posted by: sancho at November 22, 2005 03:34 PM

Posted by: Bad Vibe Be Gone at November 22, 2005 03:48 PM

Posted by: More Magic Potion at November 22, 2005 03:50 PM

thanks e i have thanksgiving fever..

Posted by: bagle at November 22, 2005 03:50 PM

Posted by: Gone To Mexico, see ya in 10 at November 22, 2005 03:51 PM

"best waves in years" ???

let's agree to disagree.

Posted by: bbr at November 22, 2005 03:52 PM

Posted by: Vibe Meter: reduced at November 22, 2005 03:53 PM

The idiocy of localism in a huge city is doing nothing but getting people's blood pressure up. Fucking relax.

Rx: Let your surfing and attitude in the ocean do the talking, then shut the fuck up when you get back to dry land.

BTW that .mov link never works for me.

Posted by: Monkey Milk at November 22, 2005 03:54 PM

holy nudity!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 03:56 PM

bbr- okay maybe not years, but certainly in the most recent past. i said this before, it wasnt the biggest and most consistent, but it was clean and conditions were perfect for 5 days. cant beat that.

Posted by: dsx at November 22, 2005 04:01 PM

Kdalle,

Ugh, I still can't get to it. I can get to www.easy-sharing.com, but not w02.easy-sharing.com. That sucks, man. I wanna check out the footage. How big is the file?

DSX,

I thought the conditions were great, but I had better sessions out there in recent months. Just as clean, but bigger.

Posted by: MSG at November 22, 2005 04:19 PM

MSG, don't know what to say. Did you click on the link for the .mov a little ways down on the page? The file is 43MB so emailing is a no go.

Posted by: kdalle at November 22, 2005 04:30 PM

try this
http://www.ruegen-surfspots.info/newsgroups/article.php?id=21478&group=alt.surfing

Posted by: junglebook at November 22, 2005 04:31 PM

Ok niceness crew, beat this: I am sitting here at my desk, ten minutes ago, bored. I start surfing a mild porn site, just checking out the chicks. When, NO SHIT, I come across online pictures of my office assistant, who is sitting 10 feet from me, going at it in all glory. All positions, all actions, with some dude, on this random porn site. I SWEAR TO GOD. My fucking secretary, oh my GOD!!!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!! I am just blown away…

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:36 PM

What defines a local?
One spot, every day, 10+ years? Is a 13year old kid whos surfed one spot since he was 10 a local? Can you move away and move back and maintain your local status? What about just a long vacation? What if you split your time between two spots? three?

Posted by: Local Smocal at November 22, 2005 04:38 PM

here is goes

1) Bruce, I have never met you but I have enjoyed the lovely photos on your site. Please include me on your list ...and by the way even after seeing your amazing SC pics I NEVER add to the crowd down there!! amisolanimd@hotmail.com

2) E the school situation is dismal here in California. There are a few good school districts within striking distance of surf but the prices of homes are even more ludicrous because of it. I moved to the east bay and the school district is good but it takes a good 45 minutes to get to the beach if I'm lucky. I really regret it at times but I know that I would regret it more if I sacraficed my kids education for my surfing pleasure.

3) Herion is a nasty drug. follow me around work sometime if you doubt me and I'll show you the true face of herion, smack meth crank and booze, not the glamour shit you see on t.v. ( e.g. have you ever seen Julia Roberts walking the street in the tenderloin?)

4) E - todays surf was like a good stripper, it left me frustrated yet wanting more!

peace

Posted by: antman at November 22, 2005 04:44 PM

Please post proof.

Posted by: Q at November 22, 2005 04:45 PM

how do you cut and paste a photo to here?

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:48 PM

Kdalle,

I guess it's not working for both Monkey Milk or me. When I cut and paste those URL's, I just get a page not found error. Oh well, it's ok.

Hey anon, yeah, post some proof. You sure it's her? Maybe it's someone that looks like her. Wow, I would be freaking out too. If that was really her, I'd try to hook up with her. Any chick that does Internet porn has gotta be easy.

Posted by: MSG at November 22, 2005 04:50 PM

just post the URL anon.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:51 PM

<img src="http://www.secretaryporn.com/nice.gif">

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:51 PM

that was an example of how to post a pic.. not a real url

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:52 PM

that was not my link. Yeah, i'm fucking sure its her. I mean POSITIVE. This is no bullshit, and yeah, the first thing that ran through my mind was, well, yeah, maybe I can nail her. Oh, fuck. What a trip.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 04:54 PM

sancho - hmmm... I thought I offered a pretty balanced perspective on the whole local issue. I was trying to communicate the need for a respectful attitude towards the folks who have spent their lives surfing a particular spot, while at the same time pointing out that engaging in bad vibes and violence in the water is pathetic, immature and just plain sucks.
But I actually think dsx is right, this discussion is sorta bad vibe territory itself and my seratonin level is still riding pretty high from the run of good surf we've had lately.
Peace to any I may have offended.

Posted by: Jimmie (a tranny since 1974)) at November 22, 2005 05:02 PM

MSG, this is my last attempt. I uploaded the file and got a new link. Try this:

http://www.easy-sharing.com/110890/pipe320.mov.html

The link to the .mov is a little way down the page.

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 05:12 PM

Kdalle,

That worked! I think I figured it out. The URL uses a dynamic session ID that changes on every invocation of the URL. So the ones you were giving us earlier became invalid. Anyways, that video had some real funny shit in there. Liked the one where all these heads are floating around and a wall of whitewater is barrelling towards them is funny. I've never seen anything like that before in a vid. Great stuff. The footage looks pretty old though. When was that taken?

Posted by: MSG at November 22, 2005 05:33 PM

Old Timer this and Old Timer that. Smiley came out with his threebro-pak . None of which could actually ride the waves but ya gotta hand it to stoke. Hooting and a 'holler'n. Tough grasping the twisted mentality of THIS HERE BLARGH. Study the beach and in 100 years get back to us...


Posted by: Beavis, Butthead, Bagel and Lerm at November 22, 2005 05:34 PM

I totally agree with Dennis and DSX and the like.

Such a shame that Bruce feels he needs to bring the site down. How anyone can ever make a case for a site like that bringing crowds to the likes of OB is utterly utterly beyond me. I know it's been said but it's BLOODY San Francisco, it's one of the most well known cities in the world and an utterly famous beach. The thing is plastered over the web, books, videos etc... Do we think that somehow people are not going to surf the place if we don't stick up a few photo's here and there?

Why oh why do a small number of morons persist is some half baked crusade thinking they own the friggin beach and its waves??

What on earth happened to freedom and free speech?!

Bruce I am convinced that the reality of sharing the stoke through your photos bring much more enjoyment to all. please don't let that go away through a few small minded twats who constantly bitch and moan.

I've personally never considered OB bad for crowding - as soon as it gets OH there's never a problem, and on the smaller cleaner days (like today) you can always find some space - and on the whole most people are fine.

It's like there some stupid myth behind the fact that people have whine about 'naming' and posting pics... like you're not a true waterman unless you do. What a pile of steaming crap that is. please don't buy into it.

Posted by: ankors at November 22, 2005 05:35 PM

jimmie- no offense here. no bad vibes re a discussion about localism either- it's an interesting topic. I think that long-time locals should be respected when they deserve it, that is if one shows up at a foriegn spot, lays low, and shows proper etiquette, then the visitor should not be hassled and should be allowed at least some scrap waves. If, on the other hand, and is the usual case, the visitor is simply hassled and bullied out of the way then the locals deserve, and get, no respect. I think that this is what has happened in SC and the result has been that everyone is mad- locals mad about crowds showing no etiquette and visitors realizing that no matter what they do they are going to be shut out so why bother trying to work your way into a lineup? Anarchy ensues. Everybody has to give a little.

Posted by: sancho at November 22, 2005 05:59 PM

dude! ill be dead in 100 years!

for the record i never bagged on no old timers maybe that was meaney.

Posted by: bagel at November 22, 2005 06:02 PM

bruce, i've enjoyed keeping up with your pictures; please email me your new url! m a r k c r i m at gmail.

Posted by: kloo at November 22, 2005 08:25 PM

is it ever okay to laugh when someone breaks their board?

Posted by: scott free at November 22, 2005 08:29 PM

Hey, this is not a big deal. The site is still there if you want to check it out. Shoot me an email for the URL.

LONG WEEKEND! Time to surf and take photos and swap stories in the lot and act like kids. Don't miss a minute.

Posted by: Bruce at November 22, 2005 09:16 PM

I'd like to shed a little light on the issue of localism at OB. When I first started surfing there were only two rules: Respect those that came before you and don't call any attention to us. Every session was among friends and a strange face in the water was rare. The majority of the new arrivals didn't observe those rules and before long locals were getting vibed by small groups of trannys that thought they could stake out a peak for themselves. That in a nutshell is why you have a bunch of bitter, hostile locals and the new generation is fighting for what's left. If your not from here your a guest here. Sometimes it's necessary to respect your hosts wether you think they deserve it or not.

Posted by: Born and raised SF at November 22, 2005 09:55 PM

What type of shit is that? "NIMBY SURFERS RULE!" yawn...

Posted by: General Custer at November 22, 2005 10:08 PM

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:07 PM

sancho - ditto, and no offence taken. But I don't think that respect has to necessarily be earned. I think basic respect is a right we are all automatically entitled to until our behavior warrants otherwise - that goes for trannies, locals, kooks and pro-bros alike.

Posted by: Jimmie at November 22, 2005 11:18 PM

Goooooooo threebro-pak!

Posted by: Hackey, Sackey, Stoney at November 22, 2005 11:40 PM

If I used to live in the east bay and surfed ob all the time but moved to sd or a while and i came back up to sf will the locals be mean to me???

Posted by: sd rider at November 22, 2005 11:45 PM

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Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:47 PM

rickland bro!

Posted by: at November 22, 2005 11:48 PM

Going home for the Hollowdays????

Posted by: Kellys at November 23, 2005 10:09 AM

Born and Raised - yawn. Like it's crowded and vibed - with the exception of two tiny spots. I surf alot and have fun. No vibes.

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 10:31 AM

my kid got bounced out of preschool. yes, preschool. as a result, I have not surfed any of the last two weeks. you want crazy? try "applying" to preschool. or kindergarden.

anyway. it's gonna be all good - he's boogie-boarding now and is gonna rip when he's seven...

Posted by: J at November 23, 2005 10:58 AM

hey sd rider, i did that. i havent been hassled in sf, only once in pathetica when i was going to high school up here for taking off to close to a guys head, so he said. Really, unless you surf one of the 2 points in SF you wont have to deal with hardcore "localism" up here, even then if you know what your doing youll be fine at sf's "secret spots". though bvb may disagree with me. geez im in a writing mood lately.

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 11:06 AM

Happy Thanksgiving, and I am damn thankful for last week! We are super lucky to live here in SoCal.
Fri

Sat

Posted by: artifact at November 23, 2005 11:30 AM

awesome shots mang

Posted by: bbr at November 23, 2005 11:38 AM

Localism hits the internet. Prove to Bruce with an e-mail that you're not a tranny and gain access to his top secret site. But don't waste his bandwith while you're there kook!

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 12:08 PM

Nice shot Artifact. I can see my house in the second picture. Funny. That little section of houses near lake Merritt is shaped kinda like the Pentagon.

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 12:15 PM

yes nice ones artifact! that is a great looking left

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 12:25 PM

Chugga chugga...

Posted by: flades at November 23, 2005 12:39 PM

penta-blob

Posted by: MxRxHx at November 23, 2005 12:44 PM

Nice day on the pipeline from the system above...
http://www.wavewatch.com/pages/cam.php?CamID=7&RegionID=17

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 12:49 PM

Hey Born and raised in sf- If I am a "guest" here will my SF born child be able to vibe with me a bitter and hostile attitude? Is he my "host"? In attempting to shed light on localism you have only raised more uncertainty.

Posted by: sancho at November 23, 2005 12:53 PM

Will it be a all-surf-and-no-snoboarding winter? The north west has like 80+ inches. It was like this pre-chango-niño.

Did anyone see the guy pracicing his fire juggling act, or maybe his dawn fire sacrifice? He was driving a company proporting to provide fire safety services.

Posted by: Burnt Reynolds at November 23, 2005 01:00 PM

to all you guys and gals, a simple concept:

SHUT UP AND SURF.

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 01:12 PM

That's some funky UI

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 01:19 PM

Can't surf,"working"

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 01:19 PM

Whoa!

Posted by: gnarley at November 23, 2005 01:20 PM

Sancho, quit your crying.

Born and raised was just trying to educate about how things have developed here.

He did stretch things a bit with the "if you aren't from here you are a guest" bit, but come on, it is just an explanation on how things develop.

All the folks who say overcrowding is not because of this or that (usually whatever it is that they are pushing, whether it be photos or naming), but rather some other thing (whatever they are not pushing like live cams or surf reports), fail to realize, that it is all of it that leads to overcrowding. Magazines naming spots, web sites like this one, photos sent to your friends, teaching others to surf, cell phones, claiming about that one ride you got yesterday, Wise, Surfpulse, BVB posing about how good the fort is and how you don't have a right to surf there, it all creates crowds.

We can all point to what we think it the worst offender, but we are all responsible.

Its like living in a communal house and drinking the last of the milk and leaving just a sip in the carton in the fridge. Fuck, everyone drank the milk, it wasn't just you, but Shit! At least have the decency to own up to it, and buy another quart.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 23, 2005 01:24 PM

i had the ice cream, too.

Posted by: kloo at November 23, 2005 01:29 PM

I hear you F1.

Next time you catch "the best wave of your life!" try and not relate it to any one, you can't! You'll burst, it's human nature.

SF population in general has also gone way up in the last decade.

Posted by: MxRxHx at November 23, 2005 01:43 PM

any recomendations on where to dump stuff like couches tables ect? legally of course ive taken shit to the dump before and waited in line for an hour to dump stuff but wondering if anyone knows if sunset scavengers picks stuff up from your house (ive heard they do) or good will or anything like that..thinking of maybe donating it to that dude that lives on balboa and sells stuff every weekend and surfs bareback whenever its hot out..wonder what his stance is on that. any ideas i would appretiate..

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 01:47 PM

yeah:

http://www.sunsetscavenger.com/bulkyitems.htm

Posted by: kloo at November 23, 2005 02:00 PM

sancho - With regard to your SF born progeny: in a word, yes. My advise is to not even let them know surfing exists! Take it from one who knows, you take 'em to the beach, you buy 'em a board and the next thing you know, they're droppin' in on your sorry old ass and laughing in your face! ;)

Posted by: Jimmie at November 23, 2005 02:02 PM

Bagel - just call Sunset. They will do two annual pickups from your house gratis. Or you can just dump it on the beach and the weekend party crowd will burn it for you ;^O

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 02:07 PM

thanks dudes! ya Dennis i allready burned most of my shit down there last night! kidding!

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 02:16 PM

This weekend you will see me in the water with my waterproof clipboard and charcoal pencil, please fill out my survey, "Proximate and Initiating Causes for Coming to the Beach Today." It will be part of a larger studying I am doing on overcrowding. Other topics covered are:

Stinkeye, stinkfist, and stinkfinger
Sitting in your car - how long is too long?
Crowded Peak: This spot must be good!
Surf carpooling links to codependancy
Peter Minuit's Take on Localism
Driving the coast in an SUV and other ways to burn gas
Surf stores: the complete suckage guide

Posted by: Andrew in Alameda at November 23, 2005 02:30 PM

Friend # 1- what crying? Why can't one engage in a simple discussion regarding an issue that a lot of people spend a lot of time thinking about with out resorting to insults?

Posted by: sancho at November 23, 2005 02:53 PM

NYC Barrels yesterday

these pictures don't really do it justice... I've got some shots on my digi that I will share next week.

by the way, speaking of crowds and internet crying, there were 6000 times more empty heavy winter barrels than surfers at that beach yesterday, and it's 10 miles from manhattan and how many millions of people? yay Winter Surf!

Posted by: j.o.c at November 23, 2005 02:53 PM

Bagel, you haven't heard of burnt couch reef?

Posted by: MxRxHx at November 23, 2005 03:03 PM

Sancho-

Shit man, now I am doing it.

Blaming you for all the other people crying.

The whole localism/overcrowding thing just keeps coming around, getting discussed, then people get fed up and type things after a few beers at lunch and well, that's what happened with my post.

Now, that I live within walking distance of the beach, I tend to surf the same stretch mostly because it is easier to change in my garage (I don't have to pack the car, hide a key, worry about break-ins etc.).


For me, the locals are other people that I often see in the water. I know how they surf and can adjust my wave search to them and their proximity to me. I may be more inclined to not paddle for a wave if they are set up for it, because I know they know this spot and have a good chance of catching it. I do not vibe other people in the water, and I do my best to not drop in on anyone. I surf the same stretch of beach, 90% of the time that I surf which is about 90 days a year.

I get bummed when a lot of people show up on my street (like last Saturday Morning). Am I a local?

By my definition, yes. By others def, no.

But then, I don't really give a fuck about what other people think. As long as when I am in position and they are on the shoulder and they don't drop on me because they know I regularly surf there and have an excellent chance of making that late drop.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 23, 2005 03:10 PM

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 03:11 PM

j.o.c - I saw the name rockaway and then saw a Pearson Arrow surfboard and thought those waves sure look clean for our local spot. I guess the water is in the mid to low 50's there by now.

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 03:13 PM

just talked to a buddy that surfed in the NJ area last weekend. Water is around 53 degrees and he wore his 3-2 cuz his 5-4 was in a differnt part of the state. burrrrrr

Posted by: traut at November 23, 2005 03:22 PM

I am still wearing my 3-2 out here. The water temp is basically the same between SF and NJ. Its funny when I see people out here wearing 5-4's at OB. When it gets below 50 I will put the 4-3 on, buts its just not needed.
I am the first to be a pussy about cold water, but anything above 42 degrees is 4-3 weather.

Posted by: cold water at November 23, 2005 03:30 PM

I actually have never really had a bad encounter in the water at the beach so don't know why I jumped into a localism thread. Anyway, I hope everyone (trannies and locals alike) gets some good waves this weekend.

Posted by: sancho at November 23, 2005 03:32 PM

Where is namers get owned? He posts funny pictures.

Posted by: namers get owned at November 23, 2005 03:43 PM

fyi:
cold weather is a sea lion

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 03:45 PM

"I know how they surf and can adjust my wave search to them and their proximity to me."

So that's why you're always paddling away from me? I thought it was my non-stop incoherent scatalogical ranting.

53° in NJ! Whoa that's warm. Round Feb there's icicles on the pilings and jetties.

Interesting, I uploaded that Pipe vid late yesterday mainly for MSG. There are already 51 downloads. LURKERS!

Posted by: kdalle at November 23, 2005 03:47 PM

Yeah 'born and raised,' you sound like a miserable sack of pus, keep writhing in self-hatred and agony, but maybe give the incest a break for a few days. The weather's been real nice, maybe crawl out of the rootcellar for a few hours and stretch the legs a bit. Karma is indeed a bitch, but you know there's more to life than raised trucks, rifle accessories and beer. It's true that hate is fun and easy but there's a big world out there and so many more people like you for you to travel and share perspectives with. Start with Appalachia, then maybe move on down to the Ozarks in the south, then maybe finish off with Idaho. You're not alone, you little booger-eater you.

Posted by: free ranger at November 23, 2005 04:02 PM

Hunter is a pusy kook!!!!
Bortek is missing part of his lip!!!
This for my bro R.

Posted by: Todd at November 23, 2005 04:09 PM

I know I'm the 50th person to write this but please don't paddle out and sit within 6 feet of someone when there's no one else around for like 20 yards.

Posted by: who are these retards? at November 23, 2005 04:10 PM

Eff the beach, I'm claiming local status on e's surf report. I've been here since way before e added the comments link below his entry, and you had to know to click the time stamp to get to the comments section, in fact I've been here since the very first entry in July 2002. Check the archives bitches. This lineup shall be regulated henceforth. 3to5, you get one "vague is vogue" per month, exceed the qouta and you shall be sent in with a fin busted off, figuratively speaking of course. Dennis, you're like the mascott for niceness (even though it doesn't really have anything to do with being nice) with your upbeat stoke-filled posts, therefore we will tolerate your presence as long as you never post before 11:30 am. Web, even though you are a transplant we like your style and you shall have set posting privileges, as shall Bagel, Kaiser (who is local and definitely not a kook), sharkbait and Friend #1. All others: await your turn, show respect and stifle your barno impulses the same way you stifle your drooling, compulsive masturbation and tourette's tics (i.e., not very effectively, but please at least show that you are trying). Otherwise, take your tranny (whether FTM or MTF) asses back to SF Surfrider or the yahoo groups for kook bay area surfers or wherever the hell else you invaded from. Nectar of Ambrosia to all.

Posted by: online poker at November 23, 2005 04:35 PM

um, pussy is spelled with 2 s's

nice shots joc! all those guys surfing though look like there in alot of pain..

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 04:37 PM

hey dennis - that's an old Arrow i leave on the east coast, but i got stuck in the lip by the offshores yesterday and sent over the falls to take off a fin with my ass! guess it needs a little love now.

the water might even have been 57... i was toasty out there with a hotline 4/3... the gloves were extremely clunky and unnecessary. hood was good though with the 25 mph offshores, and the rain.

really, the air temp is more the issue, at least right now... yesterday was a balmy 40, but overnight it cleared, and plunged into the 20s... that gets chilly! respect to the committed winter surfers of the Northeast!

Posted by: j.o.c at November 23, 2005 04:38 PM

nice joc, got some nice lefts...hmm manhattan

in down with OP

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 04:46 PM

thanks bagel for not having the I owne the place attitude. See you on friday.

Posted by: sd rider at November 23, 2005 04:54 PM

crazy thing is i bought this place back in 1626 for 25 bucks..

ill be here all week

Posted by: bagel at November 23, 2005 05:10 PM

No posts before 11:30! What am I going to do all morning, work?

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 05:36 PM

Hey kdalle, just got into Hawaii and planning on heading out to Lani's tomorrow. =) Have a good Thanksgiving.

Posted by: MSG at November 23, 2005 06:15 PM

okay all you niceness people, how about maybe take a few days off from writing every minute of your life experiences and feelings on this blog

Posted by: get a life weenies at November 23, 2005 06:22 PM

This blog is for OB wannabe lone wolf posers, I'm going back to swaylocks, nyaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tranny Kook #5567-348A at November 23, 2005 06:39 PM

Sancho, I guess I'm guilty of imposing my values on others. By my own choice wherever I travel whether briefly or for an extended stay I try to comport myself as a guest. I like to think you're a local when the natives say you are. There are plenty of trannys that are considered local.

Free Ranger, being relatively new to this whole internet blog, messageboard, forum,means of communicating, I don't know that I'll ever get used to the fact that there's always some chickenshit hiding behind his keyboard hurling insults that they'd never dare say to someone's face. I guess it's appropriate that you named yourself after that fancy poultry they serve in upscale restaurants.

Posted by: Born and raised SF at November 23, 2005 07:03 PM

bagel...why do they call you bagel?

Posted by: sd rider at November 23, 2005 07:03 PM

Sounds painful j.o.c.

Posted by: Dennis at November 23, 2005 07:14 PM

So then, if you move 100 feet from the physical spot you're born at, are you a guest?

Posted by: give us some measurements at November 23, 2005 07:23 PM

measurements, no matter where you were born and no matter where you will go, you will always be a kook. those with the power to regulate share a philosophy and an approach to the world you will never understand. it derives in part from having balls. plato called us the philosopher kings. now beat it, turn in the tuflite mctavish or whatever abomination you ride, change the oil in your subaru outback and get ready for the season up at squaw. that is your domain. stay within it.

Posted by: online poker at November 23, 2005 07:51 PM

About the guy posting about using 2/3 wetsuits at OB, I used to mostly agree with you, but I recently got a 5/4/3 wetsuit with a hood (couldn't resist, used Billabong in nearly new condition, probably made a year ago, for $80). Anyway, I can't believe how much it's helped my surfing. I can stay out for 3 or 4 hours now, I never get that "wet in the bones" frozen feeling anymore after a long session. The people I surf with who are wearing 4/3's, after around that 2 hour mark they're warming their hands in their armpits and looking for a last wave in. Me, I stay out for as long as I want to surf, and I'm playing around in the shore pound one last time before getting out. It's like swimming in the Carribean.

You talking about wetsuit thickness in a macho tone like people talking about how short their boards are, is a bit bizarre to me. Personally I say the thicker the better around here, especially if it doesn't impede your paddling, which modern 5/4/3's definitely don't.

And I'm 5'11", 200 pounds, meaning I'm not skinny, and I can handle cold water just fine without a suit. But why be uncomfortable.

Posted by: Jaques Haas at November 23, 2005 08:03 PM

I like to comport myself as a potato

Posted by: braindeadblogposturing.com at November 23, 2005 08:24 PM

All is mine! Yehee you fucking thanksgiving goof balls. Sheeit. I own the waves and always will. Wha wha wa wawa w a aaaa whap in yer face - blah blah blargh.

Posted by: bvdee at November 23, 2005 08:26 PM

I'm in NYC for Thanksgiving, and apparently there's a nice big swell coming on Friday. Anyone have any tips on where to rent a board and suit, ideally that's close to some break? Things will probably be blown out anyway, but I'd love to get wet in the Atlantic...

Posted by: Jaques Haas at November 23, 2005 08:42 PM

oh wise mullet-wearing oracle eating nachos, council us on how to conduct ourselves, and how to comport ourselves too.

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 08:45 PM

Hey Sprague, tell your little friend to behave himself

Posted by: FPG at November 23, 2005 08:56 PM

It's a strange world, the surfing blog-o-sphere.

Posted by: at November 23, 2005 09:17 PM

Im surfing in the morn.
I'll see you heads out there and I won't give any stinkeye, just smiles.

ya jerks...

Posted by: flap at November 23, 2005 09:31 PM

Grwaaaaaaaaough!

Posted by: Brian at November 23, 2005 09:45 PM

Jaques, i recently picked up a 5/4/3 and i totally agree, any wetsuit is a crutch why posture about it. the new suit is warm and i stay out longer. its a little tighter on the shoulders and more constricting, i feel it paddling but I think it will be a good trade on the dark winter mornings. fuck being macho and cold. my leaky ass tired 3/2 will do in baja and for indian summer, i no longer need to stretch it with squid lid and booties in the winter. so heres to thanksgiving, surf tomorrow and friday and saturday and sunday. cheers.

Posted by: eric at November 24, 2005 01:34 AM

sorry the offshores left with me.
online poker: e's is yours. the odds are against you everywhere else though.
happy thanksgiving to all!
we all have much to be thankfull for.
give, share, rip, shred.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 24, 2005 07:45 AM

I am thankful for crappy conditions, so I'm not distracted and I can get to work cooking the vittles.

Hope you wind protected folks get some.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 24, 2005 08:11 AM

I think that localism can be benificail. If you are accepted by the "locals", but not activly asaulting others, you benifit by their actions. Without having to do anything more than surf well and respectfully. I havn't been hassled in years, but then again I've cleared out of situations that are going badly.

I'm thankfull for living close to the beach, having enough money to buy equipment, having the time to surf, and the locals that keep the crowds down.

Posted by: Local Smocal at November 24, 2005 09:20 AM

hey 'poker' boy, you and 'born and raised' sound like a perfect match for born and raised online pokering

Posted by: ahh love at November 24, 2005 09:25 AM

hey 'ahh love', you and 'Free Ranger' sound like a perfect match for....uh....ahh love's free ranging?

Posted by: huh? at November 24, 2005 10:44 AM

Posted by: at November 24, 2005 11:48 AM

hey, I just wanna invite all of you, aliens, trannys, pedroids, cronkoids, whatever, down to kelly's for a little thanksgiving get together. We'll drink a little wine. huff a little toluene play a little "friend or foe". c'mon....whaddaya say ?

Posted by: T-bob at November 24, 2005 01:16 PM

so my kid says "screw preschool Dad, never liked it anyway". so I say "OK, well, you're five now, old enough to make your own decisions"

and we picked up his 6'6" foamie, and went to the beach...

Posted by: J at November 24, 2005 01:20 PM

Awesome, J! I like how he's sizing up the lip for the thwack he can't wait to do.

Not crappy at all today. A little bumpy and crumbly, very unlike last weekend, but some solid lines coming through.

Posted by: kloo at November 24, 2005 02:19 PM

Conditions change.

Rode a couple with Kdalle.

Go get it.

J- were you surfing my street?

Saw an identical board out in the mid aves.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 24, 2005 03:05 PM

Hey, sorry bout that drop-in bro.

Anyone who did a DP surfcheck and didn't go back would have been very surprised to see what it looked like around noon.

Gotta sleep off the food now....somethin's a comin' ...46059 1:50pm 12.5ft 13sec.

Posted by: kdalle at November 24, 2005 07:23 PM

Surfed twice on T-day. Early morning was knee-high ans sloppy. Fun in the afternoon. BTW - if anybody finds two front teeth connected to a bridge laying at the shoreline at dead-lowtide, please forward them to me ;^)

Posted by: Dennis at November 25, 2005 06:26 AM

Anybody remember Heather? Posted by: steve at November 25, 2005 09:32 AM

and this blog is ridiculously long

Posted by: heather needs bigger tits at November 25, 2005 10:21 AM

yeah it is

Posted by: heathers tits are just fine damn you at November 25, 2005 12:54 PM

BVB, I hope to meet you in person some day.

Posted by: at November 25, 2005 01:45 PM

BVB, why don't you create your own website so we can "share our feelings" with you? The negative karma will catch up with you some day. Don't confuse niceness with weakness.

Posted by: Tired of Bob at November 25, 2005 01:50 PM

BVB, you are the very SATAN delivered upon earth. May you roast to a thousand overdonenesses as we tap dance upon your ashes, with some awkwardness due to the sticky barbeque sauce.

Posted by: kloo at November 25, 2005 05:41 PM

Fort Point will be good today around 2pm.PLease come join us for a little game of cat and mouse.

Posted by: FSG at November 26, 2005 10:09 AM

BVB is everywhere, he's the #5 bus driver that pulled out in front of you on Fulton St. as you were racing to the beach to get in a session before it blew out. He's the insincere "Hola amigo" you get when you step up to order your burrito at Chino's. He's the glare you get from the carload of Asian kids that have to pull around your double-parked SUV while you jump out "for a minute" to use the ATM. You will always be betrayed by the stench of your transience.

Posted by: Vince Guaraldi's ghost at November 26, 2005 03:27 PM

Oh "Klooless Kook" instruct us all, please, on the fine art of staged blog handle evolution, learning to surf at OB in the middle of life, buffering it all with wacky comical description sharing of every detail with countless strangers, now lancing the salty knowing barbs of a seasoned waterman.

Posted by: happy fun at November 26, 2005 03:31 PM

CHILDREN OF BODOM!!!!

Posted by: Brian at November 26, 2005 04:52 PM

Well, I was goofing on the anons gnashing their teeth, not on the salty Bobster hisself.

Posted by: klo at November 26, 2005 05:11 PM

And here's some fun music:

http://kanu.ku.edu/retro/listen.html

Posted by: klo at November 26, 2005 05:13 PM

sad little world

Posted by: at November 26, 2005 05:44 PM

when E is away people really misbehave on this board, Come back E! Restore order!...and bring back last weeks conditions if you can. Also Kaiser,more women!

Posted by: antman at November 27, 2005 10:16 AM

i love you heather. call me and i will marry you.

Posted by: at November 27, 2005 10:41 AM

Oh that's the last straw. No more surfing. I don't mind the angry locals, car thieves, sewerage outflow, the glass-filled fire rings, the piles of dog shit, the crowding kooks, the sharks, the pissed off sea lions, the shitty on-shore closeouts, the rip currents, the cold, and all the other garbage I had to put up with up until now. But I'm not waking up at 5:30 in the morning to be bleary eyed and half awake to step on Dennis's teeth. That's just nasty. I'm taking up knitting and sleeping in.

Posted by: Andrew in Alameda at November 27, 2005 03:36 PM

what kind of weirdo leaves their teeth on the beach while they go surfing?

Posted by: at November 27, 2005 04:05 PM

The most dangerous of weirdo's, anon. Only the most dangerous. I still have about 27 left.

Posted by: Dennis at November 27, 2005 05:24 PM

yikes kloo!

dennis you rule!

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 28, 2005 08:52 AM

Cool music link, Kloo. I followed some links off of that page and found digitized children's stories/music albums from way back when. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: steve at November 28, 2005 09:18 AM

So then, you leave your teeth on the beach while you surf because you're the "The most dangerous of weirdo's," which in turn makes you "rule."

Posted by: niceness logic at November 28, 2005 10:18 AM

No you idiot. I left my teeth on the beach cuz they got knocked outta my mouth. For that, I get a Purple Heart - injured in action.

Posted by: Dennis at November 28, 2005 10:29 AM

ouch! dennis did you really lose your teeth?!

fun glassy little waves this morning. yesterday afternoon ob was serving it up!

checked out proof lab up in marin yesterday. cool little shop. friendly folks in there.

Posted by: lerm at November 28, 2005 11:00 AM

Gawd - maybe ya'll need to ask Herr Kaiser to trace all the annons and exposure the URLz. I ask you. Is it right that you should know who I am while you hide behind your signatures? I mean - who the hell are you? Is there a noteriety to your existence - make us believe!
I am only one man.

Are you the guy in the '99 Blazer with Tennesse plates acting out a surf guy fantasy routine at VF's. Are you one of the four or all in a carload of surf people in a Suburu from Wisconsin? Seems as if its a badge of honer these days driving around in a car with out -of -state liscense plates and a surfing board attached this way or that on the roof...
Are you the boastful chest thruster checking the waves from the dune in your Ugh's and Senor Lopez pullover ? - Or maybe you're the guy running across Great Hwy. in oversized unlaced black Skeecher tennis shoes, dropping your surf dude shades, spilling your cup of Java Bch joe and tripping over the curb to landing in a sad but sand soft heap? Was that you? I know who you are! You are the countless souless multitudes like surf zombies that have come to inahabit and claim the beach for yourselves forgetting all history that has come before you and eating us in the process...

Posted by: Dunter at November 28, 2005 11:06 AM

Well, if we all used only one unique identity per person, there would be a lot less BS talk on the blog. So, it would be nice if the anons and those who use a different signature on each post would find the courage to back up their words with a real idientity.

My name is Dennis. People who know me call me... Dennis. Anybody calls me anon - I'll kill ya :^)

Posted by: Denns at November 28, 2005 11:27 AM

e's on break for a while?

clean & fun li'l sets today.

Posted by: kloo at November 28, 2005 11:33 AM

oh really, clean fun sets? Where do you recommend? You DORK.

Don't talk about it, be about it. And any local who can't hold his/her own in the lineup and therefore has to get grumpy about all the trannies is a weak link in the SF local surf community.

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 11:41 AM

smooch!

i recommend any of the zillion peaks at ocean beach that are completely empty right now, and are very likely to stay empty, given the midday Monday small swell that's been getting even smaller.

i also recommend that you bring along some tampax, as this seems to be your time of the month.

Posted by: kloo at November 28, 2005 12:08 PM

man, you are not supposed to post about surfing. WTF? do you want everyone to know this is a beautiful world???

i got my ass kicked this weekend by OB's northern sister. wondering if she's going to be like this all winter, or if there's a glimmer of hope that i'll get more than two waves a session in the next five months. total beatdown, two waves.

Posted by: friendly at November 28, 2005 12:15 PM

oh, and it hailed.

Posted by: friendly at November 28, 2005 12:16 PM

Case and point - another anon poser. But he's right Kloo. Don't talk about surfing on a surfing-centric blog. What were you thinking, especially with the big crowds and all. I must have seen 15 people surfing in the 3 mile stretch of beach this AM. That's just too much!

Posted by: Dennis at November 28, 2005 12:20 PM

chill out and get a life

Posted by: 1-800-382-5968 at November 28, 2005 12:51 PM

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 12:59 PM

Hey Friendly,

The hold-downs are getting longer here too. We had a blow-out with the wind on Friday and Sat. Sunday was good but I had to pass to study for an upcoming final. Surfed twice on turkey day though.

Posted by: Dennis at November 28, 2005 01:41 PM

any more pics of Heather?

also, i will bet money that she smokes cigarettes. she has a smoker's mouth. (probably smokes some pole too, and if so, somebody is getting extremely lucky)

Posted by: zigeria at November 28, 2005 01:53 PM

hi everyone, come and meet me out at the beach for some fun head high waves right now. And its uncrowded too!! Yaay! I'm GAY!!

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 01:53 PM

wrong site anon, you want the obnoxious gay prick website, not niceness....SURF!

Posted by: true anon at November 28, 2005 02:23 PM

Where's the online poker spam when you need it?

Posted by: friend #1 at November 28, 2005 02:23 PM

I agree with the anons, if it's fun and uncrowded. Don't frickin announce it, don't encourage people to skip work. Just shut the hell up. Why, what's the point, at least wait until tommorow when it's blown out and raining.

Hey kloo maybe you need to adopt the kook part again, if your goal is to become kloostah outting every unpublicized swell event.

Just chill, does your whole world revolve around this blog? Do you some of you guys even work?
You don't have to document every good condition on this blog. And then you justify it "well there was no one out it doesn't matter"
Well it does matter and it ain't your descision to make

Posted by: anon #68 at November 28, 2005 02:23 PM

So, anon #68 says it's good... lets go guys!!

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 02:31 PM


Posted by: Blakestah's ghost at November 28, 2005 02:31 PM

>>>i also recommend that you bring along some tampax, as this seems to be your time of the month.

OOOHHHH!!! BURRRRRNNNNN!!!!!

Posted by: ratatattat at November 28, 2005 02:32 PM

most people that read this blog also check OB daily, so you idiots that think this blog packs the lineup need to get a life.

"dont tell people that ocean beach was good this morning", only 95% of this blog's readers checked the free webcams and saw for themselves. but it is such a huge secret. "vague is vogue, bros".

go hang out with stink eye drinking soy lattes at the sea biscuit, you idiots. OB is no secret. get over yourselves.

if it was good, i wanna hear about it.

by the way, it is already blown out today. boo hoo, i just opened the kimono. WHAAAAAAAA!!!!

Posted by: TonyHawk Missle at November 28, 2005 02:43 PM

I have some good surf related pics to share. How do I post to the blog? Are there directions posted somewhere? -Thanks

Posted by: Josh at November 28, 2005 02:47 PM

hey dennis, how are ya?

can't say i'm glad to hear about the holddowns, 'cause that sounds like humbling news for some nice folks. man it has been a shitttay fall! i liked reading about everyone's score two weekends back though. somebody post some more pictures of that.

it was DOH and snarling at my beach for the holiday weekend. not friendly conditions. it was still a mess on sunday...but what the hell, last day, thick suit...what're the chances i'll die today? cue pounding. this is the caliber of decision making skills that OB taught me. ha!

Posted by: friendly at November 28, 2005 03:05 PM

I never mastered the photo post. Somebody hook Josh up, I want to see some pics here. This Monday is worse than most in the cube.

Tucker

Posted by: tucker at November 28, 2005 03:15 PM

what's a smoker's mouth?
and shut up, heather is perfect. She's a virgin.

Posted by: obro at November 28, 2005 03:19 PM

Josh - unless you email the photos to E, you would need to have the pics up on a website and supply a link to the photos from that website using a little html code. It won't work from you hard drive.

Posted by: Dennis at November 28, 2005 03:22 PM

get a free account @ www.photobucket.com
then copy paste what the say

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 03:30 PM

copy paste where they say "Tag"

Posted by: at November 28, 2005 03:31 PM

someones crashing something

Posted by: bagel at November 28, 2005 03:52 PM

Some point and shoot pics from 2 weeks ago. Looking forward to seeing some of the real photogs pics soon.




Posted by: Walker at November 28, 2005 03:54 PM

all praise walker!..those were the days, today was kind of the day to when i had a peak all to myself and did a nice backside floater..i love raping san francisco sometimes!

Posted by: bagel at November 28, 2005 03:59 PM

Ouchy!!

Posted by: Slosh at November 28, 2005 04:18 PM

When is E getting back? I am so tired of seeing that little kid surfing. E come back, please. Maybe he left to Arizona with blakestah.

Posted by: E where are you? at November 28, 2005 04:57 PM

more updated ob shots please? i love them as much as i love heather.

Posted by: bagel at November 28, 2005 05:31 PM

The VTC continues today at Sunset Beach.
http://www.triplecrownofsurfing.com/sunset/live.php

Posted by: Steve at November 28, 2005 05:33 PM

Surfing or Heather? I think I'd pick Heather. Then move inland and snowboard. Until she got old and bitchy. Then I'd move back to the beach and surf.


Posted by: obro at November 28, 2005 06:00 PM

Hey slosh- That damned Boogie Boarder was like a speed bump in the next frame!
I pushed down the section, made him straighten out, the ran over his a$$.
Feels goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
to be a Kellys Local Boy for 32 Years!

Posted by: KLB at November 28, 2005 08:07 PM

So I'm outdated on the surf films as I'm normally not interested in the perfect tropical waves being ridden by pros. I have been thinking about getting a fish or single fin or bonzer or somthing different and was looking for some footage of these things being ridden. Any ideas for movies to watch? Shelter looks good, and Sprout too. Anybody know where I can get a cheap copy? Used or "non-original" works too since I'm mostly broke saving my money for a board. Or are their other movies out there I should check out?

Oh yeah, um, namers get owned, I was hear first, can't we all just have fun and um... I like boobs.

Posted by: #3 at November 28, 2005 08:25 PM

Morning of the Earth.
By far and away the greatest surf movie ever.
Single fins, no leashes, pure beauty, great music and double-exposed film.

Posted by: Garth at November 28, 2005 08:35 PM

Posted by: escape? at November 29, 2005 12:24 AM

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Posted by: at November 29, 2005 12:30 AM

Posted by: namers get owned at November 29, 2005 12:42 AM

wow
those are amazing

Posted by: j.o.c at November 29, 2005 12:53 AM

What's amazing? The set of canines?

Posted by: MSG at November 29, 2005 04:07 AM
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