E's Surf Report

Nice shots.

Did surf, looked pretty good in certain parts of the beach. Talked with a couple of lizards, nice morning out there.

BT - Happy B-Day my friend!

always count on kaiser to post a pic of a nice piece of tail.

something that was said yesterday had me thinking
last evening.

"Scallan's aggressiveness wrt surf etiquette, esp. at some localized breaks, is quite legendary."

so "locals" can be assholes, drop in and what not?
and that is fine? but then would said 'locals' acting that way not
show "trannys" that 'this is how we act here, so it is okay.'

SEEMS A LARGE DOSE OF DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.

point being that everyone bitches about new people and
kooks and whatever else what if the "locals" were cordial
at the very least, to one another, would that not set a precedent?

now don't get all huffy. i am just asking a question.

So I turn 50 this week and went to the DMV to renew my license this morning.

Sir, we have you down as having blue eyes and BROWN hair?? Is it time to change that? Would you prefer "gray" or "white"?

Thank God I passed the vision test, it was sketchy at times. "Is that an O or a D?"

Good to meet you, sfkneelo.
Back to work, Kaiserstah, you have house payments to make!

what gives - where are kaiser's pics?

i found it really frustrating out there this morning. cruddiest session i have had in a long time, what with the yanking current, weird double-ups, sorta unpleasant crowd, and shifty peaks.

i have a blakestah or other knowledgeable person question about the sandbars:
so obviously these totally wacked sandbars/bottom contours were caused by our recent run of gynormo surf, but how do they get smoothed out? is it just a gradual process of drift? is there a seasonal component to the erosion and recreation of the bars? anyone enlightened on this matter?

Steamwand - No one has ever accused me of being overly knowledgable but, the large ground swells cause big currents that move the sand away from and alongside the beach during the winter. This completely changes the bars; destoying some and creating others. During Spring and Summer, the small wind swells push the sand back to the beach and again change the sand bars and rebuild the beach.

word on the crap session this AM. this beatch is quite unfamiliar to me lately. not necessarily bad waves out there just nothing like what I excpect to see.

and inner bars can be fun on a spring windswell but when the 15s energy reforms in the river and then dumps on the inner bars - its a little intimidating.

maybe the tide was just too high and its going off right now.

Hey Bruce, at least you HAVE hair. I turned 50 last year and thought I would wear it like a badge of honor. Didn't quite work out... in the lineup I'm just the grumpy-old-fart-wave-hog-on-the-tanker. Oh well.

Some nice outside sets this morning but damn that rip sucked. I paddled non-stop, really, for an hour and a half. Please pass the ibuprofen and frozen peas.

korewin, relax, most of the locals stay inside the bay for the winter. There are fewer and fewer born and bred at the beach every year. Attrition with few replacements. Only 14% of SF is under 18 and the vast majority have no interest in surfing. Soon there will be only transplants. BTW, there are some v. nice locals. They mostly keep a low profile.

korewin, The locals only drop in on the trannys so its ok in their mind. They are cordial and nice to one another. The problem is that its been 15 yrs since the locals had it to themselves.

sd - I never wear a dress and I've been dropped in on. OK well maybe a little make-up to cover up the wrinkles.

more like 25 years sd.........

waaa, the good old days, waaa

I've seen the locals drop in on each other plenty. I've witnessed some sad but hilarious local-on-local verbal jousting too.

the localism story in bbr's magazine (he posted a link yesterday) was disgusting. (the one with the fight in the parking lot). made me nauseous.

shhhrrred.

The sandbars are, obviously, the result of wind, waves, and tides. They change the fastest during times of year when we have the fastest moving tides.I could say I figured this out on my own, but a guy who grew up here clued me in and I was able to observe he was right. If you get a ginormous swell with uber long periods that hits during a really big tide change, a lot of sand will move. 100 ft Wednesday hit during such a tide, and we had so little sand the rest of that year that even the outer bars didn't break well unless the swell was REALLY big. Waves broke onto the Great Highway...

OTOH, a ginormous swell that hits during a small tide change will have comparatively little effect.

kore, I wasn't being judgmental about whether it was good or bad that some long-time locals act like that. Just urging serenity-prayer-mentality. You're not going to change them, but they will mellow with age. And, in the meantime, you can watch from a safe distance until you are comfortable getting in the mix. I've certainly been dropped in on DOH+ no-backing-out waves at the south end. I changed and started surfing the middle...

And you can be sure that naming guys who grew up here and complaining about their wave etiquette will not do you or anyone else any favors in the long run.

Happy Bday, Bruce!

fyi everyone, conditions all over CA will be great until the end of the first week of Feb. Currently fighting a cold, then will be waaay out of the state, inland. Dammit!

thanks for the feedback and for not just "typing" me
names. as i have gotten to know more and more
folks over the past 6 years i notice that 99% of ob folks
are good guys and gals. i am just putting it out there to be
a bit more nice to one another and not so cutthroat.

Dude....I was sure that surf localism story in BBR's mag was fiction.

I DON'T SUPPORT our troops. This is a particularly difficult opinion to have, especially if you are the kind of person who likes to put bumper stickers on his car. Supporting the troops is a position that even Calvin is unwilling to urinate on.

I'm sure I'd like the troops. They seem gutsy, young and up for anything. If you're wandering into a recruiter's office and signing up for eight years of unknown danger, I want to hang with you in Vegas.

And I've got no problem with other people- the ones who were for the Iraq war- supporting the troops. If you think invading Iraq was a good idea, then by all means, support away. Load up on those patriotic magnets and bracelets and other trinkets the Chinese are making money off of.

But I'm not for the war. And being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken- and they're wussy by definition. It's as if the one lesson they took away from Vietnam wasn't to avoid foreign conflicts with no pressing national interest but to remember to throw a parade afterward.

Blindly lending support to our soldiers, I fear, will keep them overseas longer by giving soft acquiescence to the hawks who sent them there ? and who might one day want to send them somewhere else. Trust me, a guy who thought 50.7% was a mandate isn't going to pick up on the subtleties of a parade for just service in an unjust war. He's going to be looking for funnel cake.

Besides, those little yellow ribbons aren't really for the troops. They need body armor, shorter stays and a USO show by the cast of "Laguna Beach."

The real purpose of those ribbons is to ease some of the guilt we feel for voting to send them to war and then making absolutely no sacrifices other than enduring two Wolf Blitzer shows a day. Though there should be a ribbon for that.

I understand the guilt. We know we're sending recruits to do our dirty work, and we want to seem grateful.

After we've decided that we made a mistake, we don't want to blame the soldiers who were ordered to fight. Or even our representatives, who were deceived by false intelligence. And certainly not ourselves, who failed to object to a war we barely understood.

But blaming the president is a little too easy. The truth is that people who pull triggers are ultimately responsible, whether they're following orders or not. An army of people making individual moral choices may be inefficient, but an army of people ignoring their morality is horrifying. An army of people ignoring their morality, by the way, is also Jack Abramoff's pet name for the House of Representatives.

I do sympathize with people who joined up to protect our country, especially after 9/11, and were tricked into fighting in Iraq. I get mad when I'm tricked into clicking on a pop-up ad, so I can only imagine how they feel.

But when you volunteer for the U.S. military, you pretty much know you're not going to be fending off invasions from Mexico and Canada. So you're willingly signing up to be a fighting tool of American imperialism, for better or worse. Sometimes you get lucky and get to fight ethnic genocide in Kosovo, but other times it's Vietnam.

And sometimes, for reasons I don't understand, you get to just hang out in Germany.

I know this is all easy to say for a guy who grew up with money, did well in school and hasn't so much as served on jury duty for his country. But it's really not that easy to say because anyone remotely affiliated with the military could easily beat me up, and I'm listed in the phone book.

I'm not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn't be celebrating people for doing something we don't think was a good idea. All I'm asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades.

LOL
"Please pass the ibuprofen and frozen peas"

wow. that guy has some balls. kudos to the la times for publishing that piece.

And not to over-politicize the blog but the article in "ATARI"s sign-off link is spot on. Damn right.

I love the part about the Chinese making money off of the magnetic "support our troops" ribbons. it is true. HOT!

Atari-

Yup, the whole thing stinks. It sucks for the kids who have few other options than to join the military to pay for school or to feed their young families, (because they live in places like Oklahoma that "educates" high school students that abstinence is good and condoms are bad so they wind up with a hungry family of four by the time they are 19), and then wind up getting shipped off to Faluja. It sucks for those of us who KNEW - even back before Judi Miller and the Administration was outed for the fraud they perpetuated on the the American people - that the whole thing was a pre-meditated lie from the get go. It mostly sucks for the families and communities that will never have their young soldiers to go through life with because they died for a lie.

I feel so much despair when I read the news. Surfing is my tonic to all this shite going on with this fucked up Administration.

Get some waves, write your Congressmen and Senators and let them know what you think of the job they are doing. Then, VOTE!

Peace.

disclaimer = sorry for the politics today, guys.

pissedoff, agreed on the voting. problem is that we usually only have one of two very-similar choices. take Hillary, for example, that chick doesnt seem to have an opinion on the war (that she voted to approve). and we are gonna have to vote for her next election.

boxer and feinstein also both voted FOR war.

pelosi's family business strictly forbids hiring union labor.

ah shit, we need Chuck Norris in a bad way!

A little more info on beach moprhing.
http://www.coastalchange.ucsd.edu/index.html

Totally agree with the LA times article.
I Have never supported the folks in the military who joined after the Iraq fiasco began. People who yearn to tote machine guns, intimidate people, feel powerful and participate in imperialism are not the people i choose to support.

We need a military.. to DEFEND against the psychos that do exist in the world. But.. never to attack without provocation. We suck!

I feel horrible for the ROTC folks, the people who joined after 9/11 to aid in a national defensive posture and any soldier who winced at the sickening inhumanity of the Iraq War but was forced to participate anyway. That fucking sucks!!!

It makes me want to throw up every time i think about the Iraq war.

Thousands and thousands and thousands of deaths. For no good reason.

Thousands and thousands and thousands of INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED!!!! IN OUR NAME!!! FOR NO GOOD FUCKING REASON!!!! ARRGHGHGHGH!!!

GIVE ME A F U C K I N G BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FAGS MAKE ME FUCKING SICK TO MY STOMACH. GET A GODDAMN CLUE.

whoa dude, yeah, surf some waves, fuck!!! write your congressman, whoaaaa!!!!!!!!

Nice to meet you, Bruce, and Kaiser!

I've posted some of the pix on www.ksusa.org, in the photo gallery.

There are heaps more pix, but they all kind of look like the empty rights I posted.

It was deceptive out there, no doubt!

Cheers!

hey guys, chuck norris here....i've been watching you dudes for a few weeks now and i like what i see. sure, there are a few pussies around, but overall you've got your shit together.

for my next movie, i've been thinking about a group of highly-trained surfers that take down a drug-cartel in central america. if any of ya'll are interested let me know....and if there's anything at all i can do for you guys, i'm always available.

keep kicking ass,
chuck

Actually, Feinstien voted for it and Boxer and Pelosi voted against it. I sent Dianne a very angry letter after that vote.

Hillary is a BIG dissapointment (but she isn't my Senator) and the clueless Dems need to go buy a clue and get their act together. If they nominate her for 08 we are screwed. I don't understand why the Dems can't just say we voted to authorize force because we were tricked. Now that the lie is exposed we don't support this war. They need to get their talking points together and just stick their scardy cat necks out for a change.

Oh I wish I was surfing right now.

please clue us in betty duball. what are we missing??

Hey SFKneelo, is there a kneeboarder equivalent to snowboarding and/or skating?

Imagine taking a 40ft drop into fresh pow on your knees or dropping into a perfect a vert ramp on your knees.

Fucking rad.

"I'm not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn't be celebrating people for doing something we don't think was a good idea. All I'm asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades."
Jeezuz, spot fucking on.

Bruce - Sorry, but I laughed right out loud at your post.

kdalle - Oh man, I feel you my brother. I was out yesterday for the first time in over a month. I work up this morning feeling hungover - and I ain't had a drink in over 16 years! But you gotta watch that ibuprofen; it wore a hole in my gut years ago. And I used to love them frozen peas until Jeff Harrison, the acupunturist, told me that heat is much better than cold except for immediate treatment of the most severe trauma. Otherwise cold tends to set up the whole repeated trauma / arthritis cycle. In any case, I like your "keep surfing no matter what" motto.

Can you guys get serious and start talking about some real stuff- like Jenn Sterger and Sunny Garcia's chick?
Come on now!
Lets get it started, yah, lets get it started in heeeyarr!!

The Surf looks epic today.
Attack, attack, attack!!!

dorf,

water is more forgiving than snow or concrete.
i believe we humanoids need the extra shock absorption provided by the lower extremity flex to do skate and snow drops.

"Welcome to the Beach Chalet, I'll be your waiter tonight, my name is Bagel, can i interest you in a drink or an app to start??"

who is this jenn sterger person? photos please.

thanks, dennis. i'm gonna learn me something on that website. will provide report...
sweet footage on surfline of j.star's drop at mavs. good on her. i think she's surfing in the pipe contest too.

Dunno... haven't heard of anything, but it would be rad!

My bro once had an 8-wheeler skateboard. It was fun to ride standing up. On more than one occassion, I put pads down on the deck and knees and rode the neighborhood pool. That was... maybe '80?

my two cents on sandbar formation:

not something I know a whole lot about, but sandbar formation has a chicken-and-the-egg effect with wave period and water depth. Since waves break based on depth for a specific wave period, if you had a perfectly slanted beach, waves would always break in the same spot, and drop their suspended sediment right there, forming a sandbar. But tides change and wave periods are not constant, but they still tend to drop their sediment near the bar, though sometimes they just dredge up the bar. The amount of suspended sediment is also significant, though I don't know if I could guess it's relationship to tide in our area. I think your most defined sandbars are a result of having the same period breaking in the same spot for the longest amount of time. But like blakestah says, I can also conceive of the situation where high energy waves move the bars far off shore, then that sediment remains out of play for the rest of the season. I think the current research is focusing on the bottom boundary layer, where the water interfaces with the bottom. So I'm not entirely sure if the things you can see on the surface are good enough to figure out which way the sandbars are heading. This confusing stuff seems to happen most often at midbeach OB where some days you can walk out 200 yds in waist deep water, and other days you step off the beach into a trough. The dredge spoils dropped off past Sloat this past summer just added to my confusion. I think swell angle also plays a big role where the rips form. It's a bit more than I can wrap my brain around at this point.

Jimmie-You're right about the ibuprofen. I actually rarely use it. I know of too many people who developed ulcers. One guy nearly went into shock from overuse. But, the peas are the real deal. I don't know Jeff Harrison but my experience is that the R.I.C.E. method works wonders. Rest, Ice, Compression, Extension. With my back, which has a blown disk and a couple of bulgers, Ice and Rest has amazing efficacy. To my understanding ( and I'm sure blakestah will correct me within moments) heat actually has a negative effect. It may loosen the muscles and tendons which feels good temporarily but in the end really just inflames the injury.

FROZEN PEAS RULE!

Actually, thinking on it, high tide ranges mean higher current velocities so higher capacity to carry sand and higher capacity to drop sand.

ok, I'll stop now.

The Passion of the Kanye:

no leg ripper

Please tell me that story in A-Frame Mag is fiction:
http://a-framemag.com/mags/03/
(Balmoral with a Side of Lamb)

Who is Jenn Sterger?
Jenn Sterger is just a wholesome florida girl. She is currently a med student at Florida State University. She works hard at an all boys school to put herself through medical school, just trying to make ends meet. i think she is studying neurosurgery.

Here she is wearing her pink outfit on one of her few down days between library sessions. Just hanging with some other med school students that she worked so hard with to complete the anatomy lessons:

also, here she is volunteering for the United Way on campus, showing school pride, before staying up all night to cram for another anatomy exam. The gentleman is her study partner who will help her cram it all in before the big test:

More images of Jenn, and a Pay Pal site for donations, can be found at http://www.fsucowgirls.com

I Have never supported the folks in the military who joined after the Iraq fiasco began. People who yearn to tote machine guns, intimidate people, feel powerful and participate in imperialism are not the people i choose to support.

e people join for a lot of different reasons, they do not fit neatly into you timeline. Have you actually spoken to anyone that joined after Iraq started or are you just guessing at their attitudes?

Natural mo betta.

Betty Duball, your military transport plane to Baghdad is on the tarmac and awaiting your arrival. Yeah thought so, you bonehead.

I was pro Afghanistan - anti-Iraq. If "I" was a soldier that joned the military to fight in Afghanistan, and was ordered to fight in Iraq, "I" would be setting up shop in Canada. It wa too obvious a mis-judgement.

Paddled outside yesterday morn and sat by myself. Oily glass reflecting the sunrise and clear skies, so magical to experience that with no one else in sight. Got an outer wave almost immediately and felt great. Sesh went downhill from there with strong current and thumping inside.

Here's a couple pics from yesterday post-sesh (perhaps I was near sfkneelo, viper fins t-shirt?):

"I" would go to Mexico or Australia or New Zealand, not Canada.
sit at Rio Nexpa or gold coast for a couple years.

"I" dont prefer Canadian women, or their attitudes. (generalizing here, but that whole Alanus Morissett thing is go LAME). all they seem to do is complain, complain, complain.

Mekkis or Aussies are where it is AT!

I'm totally generalizing about military folk who joined after the start of the iraq war. I just can't imagine how/why anyone could join knowing there would be a high likelyhood of being shipped to Iraq. I guess if you're poor or facing jail time and have no other options but military service than that's sad but true. I was raised Quaker and am an avowed pacifist soo.. i just can't relate to pro-military folks. I'm lucky to not be forced into military service. thank my lucky stars.

I've spoken with a few people who have joined after Iraq started and a few fit my profile perfectly (One was a scary rambo style kid who loved the military and thought Bush was the best. One was a special forces-type guy who hated the bush administration and really felt like what he was doing over there was wrong. He had killed many people.)

Agree that we need defense. but.. no killing innocents for no reason please.

kdalle - Yeah, I'm surprised that blakestah has not chimed in on this heat vs. cold debate yet. In any case, I say "whatever works" for you to "keep surfing no matter what!"

oops...

Not me, g-money... have a bum knee. ;-)

The pix I mentioned were South end this AM.

Those are nice pics, BTW! What happened on the middle one?

Also, regarding kneeling on a skateboard... don't do it! Siggy's right!

i just had the best shag

There's things you know, and things you don't....

I know ice worked well for my surfer's shoulder. Didn't try heat.

I know Jeff Harrison did acupunture on me, and it worked even better on pain and inflammation than ice. And, he knew more about the underlying biomechanics than a Hopkins trained orthopaedic surgeon and UCSF faculty physical therapists. And, he gave me a stretching and rehab routine that was basic, but accelerated my recovery. And I would highly recommend his services to anyone suffering from over-use related to surfing, at least check it out once or twice.

> What happened on the middle one?

it wasn't pretty...I have 4 in the sequence, will post them tomorrow if I remember.

IMHO -

The folks who join the military genuinely feel like they're doing the right thing and feel like they are defending this country.

"Support Our Troops" is a marketing ploy to deflect legitimate criticism of the war.

I wish I could've surfed this morning. Mixed sandbars or not.

wo, no legs skater guy is nutty

heres some shots i took yesterday at lunch with my new photo machine..look out mexi and bruce! ya right.

hope this works

When The Beach is putting the hammer down on what should be EZ Money days, my mind wafts back to gentle climes and warm water...

stupid son of a! image hosting my ass!

stupid son of a! image hosting my ass!

oh that worked yet it is tiny..heres other tiny ones

on the sandbar note. Anyone see Steamers around new years at the negative tide. There was so much sand on the inside that you could walk from Cowells to the north stairs on sand. I've never seen that before. At reef/point breaks I'm used to seeing sand disappear in the winter and then reappear during the summer. or am I crazy?

As I look back I've convinced myself these bar changes occur every year. Every fall I look at Sloat and wonder why the hell I ever surf that end of the beach but I have felt myself drawn back there and I can now recall getting some really fun rides and tough hold downs at Sloat, usually in the latter part of winter.

So what we need is someone with some acces to some Catapillar equipment on the next negative tide. push a couple sand burms in the channel at midbeach and we should be golden again

Betty Duball burning boogers....
http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/55110737
http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/55110738
http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/55110728

whata kook

Re: Scallan, which is the more violent act, assassinating a man's character on the internet or punching someone in the nose for doing so?

As for drop ins at the beach being life threatening? Could you guys take yourselves any more seriously? Next you kooks will be wanting Medals of Honor for surviving a go out.

bvb,
i've been talking to wc about a similar design concept as your new red board. what are the diemensions if i may ask? or offline: three2fivesetsof7@yahoo.com - thanks.

know your limits-the best defense against a libel suit is the truth. Some people can't handle the truth so they resort to violence. Some accept the truth and change.

awesome! so I've learned 3 things today...

1. local regulators are always right.
2. violence is bad, except when locals practice it.
3. although seemingly aggressive, locals are sensitive and can have their feelings hurt by random blog postings.

cool photos bagel. You can also try momentoffame.com or the surfermag forum image hosting thingy if you're not happy with image shack.

digging on Nels Cline on guitar right now.

Started to learn "Giant Steps" last night. Got the melody, which is easy.. now on to comping and eventually improvising over the quick changes.

COltrane is the man.

is it cool to cry over stuff from 25 years ago?

never forget, but don't let them know you remember

educated, That was HOT.

agreed.
this local/non-local stuff is BS.
Dont Drop In on people, even if you are a local lifeguard. Yep, it is dangerous and stupid at the same time. Dont multitask in that manner.

The Ramp is where it is at this afternoon.

Pray Hard, the Chinese are coming!!!

tomorrow may be a good day to miss work

Mr T. pities fools who drop in.
Don't drop in sucka!

thanks E, ill check those out with further photographic exploits

Don't drop in on or snake your fellow surfer. In other words, do not catch a wave once another surfer has claimed it by being in a deeper or more effective position at takeoff.

Dropping in and snaking are the two most common ways in which we blow each other's fun in the surf. Both are usually caused by greed, and involve a ride-crippling interference by one surfer on another.

What do you think?
Discuss this bill in our community forum.

The drop-in happens like this: Surfer A is closest to the curl, paddles into and catches the wave, only to find that Surfer B -- the dropper-in -- has also caught the wave, from further out on the shoulder. Surfer A is then blocked from making a successful ride. The two surfers may collide, accidentally or deliberately, but it's unlikely that either will enjoy the wave to its fullest. At some critical surf spots, Surfers A and/or B may even be placed in physical danger as a result.

Drop-ins can and do happen by accident, as well as through frustration and confusion in a crowded lineup. To avoid dropping in, practice the three Ls: Look, Listen, and Learn. Always Look to your inside toward the curl before committing to the wave, just to make sure nobody's already in there. Listen for the common warning - a hoot or whistle from the surfer in position. Learn from your errors - if you drop in, make sure you're off the wave as soon as possible, say sorry, and make sure the other rider's OK before going on with your session.

A more subtle, yet potentially more offensive form of ride interference is the snake. This move is very bad etiquette, a greedy exploitation of the generally understood drop-in rule, and is usually practiced by competent and aggressive surfers. Snaking works like this: Surfer A, in position and having waited his or her turn, begins to paddle for the wave. Surfer B (the snake) waits until A's focus is purely on catching the wave, then makes a quick move to the inside and takes off, claiming the wave. If both surfers end up riding, it appears A has dropped in and is in the wrong, yet both surfers, and usually most onlookers, know otherwise.

Snaking can be distinguished from dropping in, in that it's rarely accidental. The result, however, is less predictable, and if A is also a competent surfer, bad feelings and even arguments may occur. If you're being snaked repeatedly by a single surfer, don't react -- it's unlikely to be personal. Simply move to another area of the break, putting yourself and the snake out of each other's wave-catching rhythm. If you find yourself being persistently snaked by a range of surfers, you may be sitting too wide of the takeoff to fully claim the wave; paddle deeper and make your intention clearer.

Special note to beginners: You may occasionally note surfers breaking these drop-in codes, riding around each other, and grinning away in the process -- obviously enjoying the wave share. Very likely they're friends or acquaintances who've taken off on the same wave deliberately, or who're making the best of an accidental drop-in. This should NOT be a signal to you that dropping in is just fine at that particular spot.

hey dumbass,

here's a really easy to remember formula:

the truth = good

drop ins = bad

how about if your friend snakes you? do you than owe your friend a snake? thats pretty much the law of my land

Maybe it will be this good tomorrow.....
From Dec 05, 2005

Snake me and die

niceness artifact!!

what's the best bad religion album?

2 outa three aint bad "Educated" - you can shame us here on the net but not in the water, = THE HEIRACHY REMAINS = and no you can't change the facts of your status wanting.
Where do you people surf with all these vibes? I surfed alone three days in a row - just me and the birds showing me the sets...??????
3-5-7 dims are off Big Red but foreshortened a bit from 8-4 to fit dims on a 7-9. Ward should have a sheet on the specs... I'll drop you a line
later...
one handed typing rules!

DO IT HARDER

http://photos.sfsurvey.com/surf/april92005pm/index40.asp

br album:

'how could hell be any worse'

'against the grain' is awesome too

everything before about 94 is great i think

"ALL Ages" BR

damn artifact....pure sweetness. you just may have beat kaiser at his game!!

e, against the grain and no control are classic albums. after recipe for hate i began to lose interest...

RZA, settle down....

To all the boogies out there in wa-wa-land

Nope Kaiser is still the king!

thanks dudes. listening to "how could hell be any worse" right now.

holy mackeral.. didn't some later punk group cover the first song "we're only gonna die"

i like the dude's melodic lyricism.

BVB's board actually says BVB. At least he knows hes a dick.

SFGate piece regarding the poor fellow who drowned at OB:

"and, in recent months, had taken up surfing."

This pretty much explains everything.

ahhh c'mon kaiser....don't get jealous cause i like other women.

i still owe you some beers.

kdalle - or Jeff, if I may be so informal, although I share your dismay at the rise of the cyber-libertarian market ethic, the truth is you are not a local, you will never be considered a local unless, like korewin ,you can get Princess Leia to confer that status upon you. You can't handle that so you resort to defaming someone on the internet.`

Incidentally, we're not litigous but we breed like rabbits.

so i guess your saying your princes leia! ha ha your princes leia! help me obi one kanobi your my only hope! ha ha!

You have somehow gotten the notion that I want to classified as a local. You are mistaken. I surf here. I live here. I pay taxes here. I own a home here. Perhaps your mommy or daddy moved here or maybe a few generations back. I'd love to hear you trash talk how they were not local and are undeserving of respect but you have acheived some vaunted status by an accident of birth. What a joke.

As for outing, most people know who I am already. Now, why don't you now step up and post your real name or are you just chickenshit?

No to localism
Yes to those that had the balls to risk everything by moving here.

pretty awesome Zappa interview

kook on a red board

here here kdalle

not sure who anon local is but i know that kdalle is an elder style dude. much respect.. especially on the big days when he has his triple stringer.

I'm sure both of you have shared waves and would admire each-others chargeability.

charge on.

niceness, the new aggroville.
doooooood, the aggroville format has been done. it's tired. no one cares about whose dick is bigger or whose ballsack is older. go talk internet shit elsewhere. there used to be some interesting discussion, exchange of ideas and entertainment here. A nice relaxed salon. Now I just cringe at all the negativity and bullshit.

But the good stuff is still good and I will always come back. And the surf community in SF I think is comprised mostly of really good individuals. Namely because most of us are TRANNIES and have a little perspective and have learned to respect and appreciate what we have here. It’s really good but its no one’s to own.

e, thanks for the forum.

e-you are so right my brother. You have the spirit. And I second Machado...thanks for the forum.

Now, when are you gonna invite me back for another jam. I'll even learn some tunes this time.

Don't worry, be happy!

Just Be

Don't BV

From BV much unhappiness follows

kdalle, you have somehow gotten the notion that I dislike trannys. You are mistaken. I only dislike trannys that talk shit about my family and friends and are therefore undeserving of my respect. As far as outing you, it was not for anyone's benefit but your own. I am by no means a chickenshit. I'll make it a point to introduce myself the next time I see you. And no, that is not a threat.

hey kdalle what did you risk to move here? alot of people moved here, which is why the locals are so bummed out.

so why was your individual move so much more dramatic?

hey princess leia's can i be a local? please?

Next person to talk shit about tranny's is getting punched in the face! i will definetly break a nail on yo ass!

More pics of BVD! He can surf?

FU ecofreindlylibral surfculture trust fund brats wasting coastalpurity inducting new politico-correct beginners into your frissim rassum crap program of mind alteration to clog my lineup so I have to beat them with driftwood or broken peices of my red board. More moviepostervideo shit to sell infidel commercialcrap gluttons sucking purityknowledge from the real locals who own the beach/world and own you. Own you. Own you. Own you!

Got out at 3:00, tide was kinda low so it didn't compare with yesterdays surf. Got a couple big drops but nothing spectacular until about 5:00 ish when i did a big drop on a head high wave and got a quick right, the wave started closing out so i came up really high and dropped back down really fast and straightened out. Came back up at 6:00 and had some crappy frozen pizza which tasted delicious and then enjoyed a hot-tub and more of the cigar. Sorry about last night guys, I was really high.

fuck, man, if it wasn't for my shitty ass job, I could be surfing this whole week... so burnt out on the I/T thing. Anyone else in a job they're burnt out on? I know teachers don't make much, but i'm tired of looking at a computer monitor all day.

Ha, ha, ha, ha - funny ass shit.
Brian for president. Keepin' it real.

we feel your pain anon. work sucks, no one likes it - we should all be surfing. but then it would be fucking crowded.

If the 'locals' start beating people up maybe they will all end up in jail?? I thought that since it was a sponger he would have got a lighter sentence.

LIHUE » A Circuit Court judge sentenced a surfer to six years in prison yesterday for surf rage assaults, including an attack on a bodyboarder last year that caused a wound over the man's eye that showed his orbital bone.

e-please make a note of the IP number of the guy who is threatening me. Thanks.

Kdalle, how did you get to be the most known guy on here? I mean I dont even live up there but based on the pics on here I could prob pick you out in the parking lot. Point is, in this somewhat messed up world we live-and surf in-sometimes it is best to remain anon.

Brian, your funny.

kdalle, relax... you'll be ok. Locals come in a few kinds and most are friendly. The ones who are not are usually angry trust fund babies who are not forced to grow up, kids with time who had the good fortune of being born on the cliff, or misfits who "claim" a nook or cranny like 4 mile.
Trust me....

jan 24, dawn: san mateo county made my bits tingle. steep lefts of glass, offshore 'bout 5-10 kts. my left foot was wrapped around my left rail, just trying to hang on - all tickly afterwards. plunged an arm in a few times, too, scrunching down into the shack.

kdalle, in all sincerity, I wasn't threatening you. If you don't have the courage to say something to someone's face you shouldn't say it at all, is the point I was trying to make. If I have something to say to you, it will not escalate to violence, I assure you.... unless you start it.

I feel a Cuddlefest coming on!! Cuddles anyone?!

Who needs a snow cone?!

Tired? Stressed out? Toasted? Got the flu? Wife/partner/work/kids/parents/in-laws driving you crazy? There will be another perfect surf day that will put that stuff in perspective.

kdalle comes off as a baby. likes to throw shit but cries when it flies back.

Come on....WHO needs a snuggle??!! Let's CUDDLE BITCHES!!!

Fuck cuddling, I want anonymous spoon

Dear Locals, you can have your god forsaken "beach", how about kicking down $250k or so for my helping make your house so unreasonably, ridiculously valuable? Thanks in advance...

4 mile locals! those guys are scum. the twitchy guy with the paddeling stamina of an olympic swimmer freaks my ass out. But twitches and a lot of stamina can only mean one thing! Meth head! I love the windansea shack they made a while back though. what fucking losers.

i like kdalle. losers stop threatening him or I'm gonna kick some ass.

Hey, Nice pic of Kdoll here. Nice wave Barno!
http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/39954460

My nameth Bagel. Surf on Bagel, you kooktrannyblogshitalkinsponger!
http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/39954500

Niceness crew dropping at Kaiser Cove!

Yippie!!!! Let's drown!!

http://www.pbase.com/chucklantz/image/40216624

yea, kdalle is cool. Kdalle, don't mind the numb nut fags that like to troll here.

I love the BVB photo holding a beer at Fort Point.

Like, proof positive he is violating federal law by holding a beer at Fort Point. Nothing like it!

Whooo....federal law is scary.