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Raw Unadulterated Power

All the people who couldn’t wait for the “real OB” to kick into gear and thin out the ranks at your favorite avenue sandbar, TODAY’S YOUR DAY! A crisp, lip-defining ENE offshore wind is currently grooming the sizeable, no-joke, Aleutian groundswell into mad, “where’s my mommy,” top-to-bottom psychonaut thrill-rides. I came around the bend on Geary street around 6:30 and the sea-surface looked spectacular. Total offshore-smoothed blanket. Then I saw some corduroy! Oh shit! Then I watched some massive inside shorepound detonate at Kelly’s. Thick, powerful, intimidating masses of raw swell wreaked havoc up and down the beach. I didn’t check the likely spot but maybe a few brave souls made the charge higher up in the alphabet of streets? Man… the Nor Pac has awoken and is sweeping clean any pretenders or fair-weather surfers like yours truly. No doubt spots down the coast are firing on all cylinders right about now. Cheers to the lucky crew smart or wily enough to be scoring! If you’re one of them let us know what’s up!

Cape Edgecumbe buoy in Alaska currently 26ft 17seconds
California buoy - 19ft 11seconds
Monterey Bay buoy - 17ft 14 seconds

Know your limits out there.


California (probably looks like this at nearby spots right now)
Rob Born photo

Broke Down Melody tonight

When: Thursday November 4th at 7:15 and 9:15pm
Where: The Roxie
3117 16th Street (at Valencia) 415.863.1087
$7:50 Advance tickets available at AQUA

I watched a lone boogie boarder out in the raw, untamed ocean this morning. BIG drop--legs in air--like a flying frog. Then, BAM, the wave caught up with him and just pounded him. Yikes!! Good on him--he went back for more. Always interesting to observe wavefarers survive the OB beating.

Posted by: amigoism at November 4, 2004 10:14 AM

Some jerk on Craigslist is trying to peddle wooden palletes to burn on the beach.
Please flag his post as "prohibited" to get it taken down. We don't need any more rusty nails on our beloved beach:


Posted by: rcp at November 4, 2004 10:31 AM

fuzzy blankets

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 10:42 AM

gonna see Broke Down... at the Arlington in SB next week.

speaking of surf flicks. saw this one last night.

Best i have seen in awhile, although i am biased to 70's footage. I love the single fins/twinners and how guys used to ride them. Movin' their feet/weight/balance around like the board was 3 ft longer. Bertelman, MR, Shaun etc....

I love that styleeee!

Posted by: Hb at November 4, 2004 10:44 AM

Speaking of good 70's footage surf films, Morning Of The Earth is killer. These guys are charging Ulu in overhead conditions, single fin, and no leash. No room for error! And the 70's "trippy" music really makes the film. See it if you haven't.

Posted by: obsurfer at November 4, 2004 10:52 AM

On the Dawn Dog-walk I met Judith. She said it looked pretty, now it is just a questions of where to get in.

I told her I had to take my daughter in to school this morning, so I'd have to come back at Lunch.

It looked like one of those days that take a fair sized investment of time to get the goods. Maybe more investment than what you might be able to get to. One guy at Noriega seemed like he was trying to ride reforms. He may have just been delirious after a failed attempt to get outside, I didn't watch that long.

We will see what the winds do.

Posted by: friend #1 at November 4, 2004 10:56 AM

I didn't have the cajones to paddle out at OB this morning. If I had that 8' gun I was dreamin of I probably still would've thought long and hard about paddlin out.

Anyway I went to West Side SC. The flag was pointing stiffly offshore as I watched some chargers take off on DOH set waves. I was underskilled/gunned this morning but I did my best and took some air drop beatings and caught inside pummelings. The wave size had dropped by 8:15 when I exited. Two photogs were there so check out the standard sites. I have posted pix and a grainy Zapruder quality avi on my website (check yesterday's post).

Posted by: steve-o at November 4, 2004 10:57 AM

surfboard riding rules.

mornings of the earth rools.
turn the sound up.

watch the timmy turner movie
second thoughts.
but turn the sound off.

Posted by: elias at November 4, 2004 10:58 AM

hb you should see glass love youd dig it. i never knew how bad ass Micheal Peterson was..

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 11:00 AM

Haha elias said "surfboard riding." Elias when we gunna go cruise RWC again man? I'm getting a little better at the bowl. Maybe I can actualyl skate with you this time ;) See everyone at the show tonight!

Posted by: Ian at November 4, 2004 11:01 AM

I saw about a hundred big perfect barrels (from the safety of my car).

I saw one ridden, and it was pretty sick. Regular foot, went right, big drop, bottom turn into the mouth. Big hundred-mile-an-hour top turn back down into the mouth, legit complete cover up, shut down? No! Popped out with the spit and kicked out the back.

Posted by: robme at November 4, 2004 11:01 AM

bagel, can you shoot me an email at three2fivesetsof7@yahoo.com? me and the misses are budgeting for some artwork and a barrell riding broccoli man would be sssswwweeeetttt.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 4, 2004 11:05 AM

photos from surfline

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 11:18 AM

Posted by: at November 4, 2004 11:24 AM

With the rain a coming down last night making for a lousy evening to be on the streets, Dirty Dozen and the North Mississippi Allstars heated the Independent up with some Oleans brass and then some kicking jazzy, blues-a-billy rockin roll. "Sitting on top of the world" was my favorite of the night. The drum line made the sound explode off the stage. I was also blown away by Cody's skillz on the electric washboard. Although Ive heard it before, Im still amazed at the sounds that guy can make that ribbed metal produce.

Going again tonight but won't be able to meet up for a beer before the show as I will probably show up around 10:30 (to catch the last couple songs of Dirty Dozen). However, if any of you guys will be at the show, say hi to me. Ill be wearing the "MULE" hat and be hanging with a dark haired beauty.

Can't wait to see pics of OB today. Hopefully we will have some classics like last years from William Henery atop the avenues. I want to see some riders on these though. Suprised to not of heard of any tow-ins yet today.

Posted by: traut at November 4, 2004 11:51 AM

that first pic looks like a spot up north. i scored it last year when it was on fire. we had it to ourselves for an hour before one guy paddled out. our smiles got even bigger when he told us the spot is normally packed and aggro.

Posted by: rza at November 4, 2004 12:16 PM

Looked relentless here. Saw a few break on the truly outer bars so I headed down the coast. Passed on big but empty Scott Creek thinking the Lane would be cranking. Swell must be too steep because sets were very inconsistent. Caught a few bigguns in the Middle. Highlight was being the lone guy too get caught in the impact zone on the largest set of the morning. Five waves easily DOH+ right on the noggin.

But, on the way back up...I have never seen Pomponio so clean. Straight offshore with lineup peeling walls. The most amazing spot was Tunitas Creek. Cordouroy to the horizon...huge groomed peaks with long, long walls. Really a sight.

Hope some of you score locally.

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 12:18 PM

70s surf flicks? 'A Sea For Yourself.' best fucking video i own....and nice SC pics..thats my stomping grounds...of course, i wasnt out that day..why? because i always miss the best fucking swells every fucking time and it fucking irks me like, like, like some sort of powerful metaphor...

Posted by: seth s, at November 4, 2004 12:30 PM

thanks for the report kdalle.. sounds unreal through the mid-drive ghost beachies.

don't eat us creek!!! oh yeah! I tried to surf there with Kaiser a few weeks back and he refused on principle.

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 12:36 PM

hey elias, my name is elias to. do you pronounce it ee-lie-us or el-ee-us? i pronounce it the former.

Posted by: elias at November 4, 2004 12:43 PM

with today's big surf it's easy to forget about the significance of yesterday's news. i'm trying to move forward but it's really a struggle. especially considering the possibility of fraud and deception in Ohio. has our country already forgotten about what happened in Florida four years ago? does anyone really care?


the Michael Moore link has some voting stories that really disturbed me.

what does it mean to live in America nowadays??

Posted by: rza at November 4, 2004 12:56 PM

I too was amazed with MR's style. Never really watched that much of him. So fluid and his arms are set all weird and cool. Damn he ripped. Love watching the foot movements they do.

Thanks for the suggestions! take all my money Amazon.

Posted by: Hb at November 4, 2004 12:59 PM


next time take a picture and wait until tomorrow before you tell everyone about it, mm-kay?


Posted by: san mateo county at November 4, 2004 01:00 PM

BushCo.'s newline thinking:
"Think locally act globally."

Posted by: at November 4, 2004 01:02 PM

san mateo county:

Everyone of those breaks was empty. What a waste. I mention it in case someone has the time and effort to benefit.

So in answer to your question....No.

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 01:03 PM

drop in on anything you have

Posted by: sponge alternative at November 4, 2004 01:15 PM

anyone have this hendrix album?

Nine to the Universe

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 01:20 PM

Yeah, kdalle, what are you thinking?!?! I was gonna drive down the coast this afternoon, shimmy down a steep muddy cliff and paddle through a hundred rows of white water to surf big "don't eat us" all by myself. Now there's gonna be a big crowd.
Thanks a lot.

Posted by: don't eat us local at November 4, 2004 01:26 PM

thats a sick one e. didnt hendrix do a surf movie soundtrack? like specificaly for the movie? i heard that somewhere..was that MOTE?

this one is also insane!

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 01:28 PM

just received this email in the sierraclub webmaster inbox...

"All Liberal Democrats:
Be sure and take your anti-depressant pills for at least a week. This will lessen the pain of the fact that conservative ideas are being accepted by more and more Americans. Who knows, even you libbies may come to realize the falseness of your own liberal philosophy. Shucks, you might even become normal human beings again, if you start to accept conservative principles and values.
See how compassionate we conservatives are. We are willing to give you our conservative secrets, to release you from your liberal status, and enable you to enjoy the happiness and success of conservative thinking with a healthy mind, body and soul.
If you try real hard, you will be able to throw away your anti-depressant pills for good. Shucks, you might even develop a conscience again. If that would occur, you might be able to act human again and acquire the confidence necessary to cast off your desire to dictate how us average Americans should live. It is just possible, you might quit worshipping big government and worship God. You must admit, that ain't all bad.
Harry G. Jones URANTIA BOOK reader. Modesto, CA. "

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 01:29 PM

Surfpulse is looking for a new host for their cam. They have 9 days left before they have to move it. All of you who hate surf cams, even poor quality ones like Surpulse's, can rejoice if they don't find a new home.

Posted by: steve-o at November 4, 2004 01:41 PM

great message from Harry Jones. too bad i'm outta pills and too bad dope isn't legal yet...
although someone should tell him that 70% of america does believe in god and that government has grown 25% since Bush took office.

Posted by: rza at November 4, 2004 01:43 PM

War Heroes is the goods, I remember buying it on vynyl for $3 at a used record store in the 70's. Jimi woulda been 62 this month....... I can't imagine the sounds he woulda made/recorded these last 34 years. Sweet PP pics E, you know its big out there when you're paddlin thru the kelp.

Posted by: T.W. at November 4, 2004 01:48 PM


come here so I can kick this URANTIA book up your ass.


Posted by: mk1201 at November 4, 2004 01:49 PM

hmmm...don't you think that Harry was being sarcastic? not sure, but, come on...someone can't actually mean that. can they? if so, it's gonna be a looooooonnnnnnggggg 4 years....

Posted by: ck at November 4, 2004 02:00 PM

BBR just checked out your site, nice representing the sponge tool. Hey I live up here in the redwood curtain and was wondering if you have any knowledge of a one time redwood rider D.Delmore? He disapeared and us 8 spongers up here were just curious.

Posted by: sponger at November 4, 2004 02:14 PM



THIS CLIP IS REALLY INSANE, takes a while to downloard, too.


Posted by: MONKEY MILK at November 4, 2004 02:18 PM

that is one scary email e.
sadly, my republican friends and acquintances are really full of themsleves right now. gushing this kind of drivel. the gloves are coming off. i've had it with fucking narrow minded kooks.

Think Globally, Act Locally!

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 4, 2004 02:19 PM

bagel-IIRC, the original Pacific Vibrations used lots of copyrighted music without permission. I believe Hendrix was included. Is that the film you're thinking of?

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 02:20 PM

Anybody out there have a retro style surfboard 6'0 by Surf prescriptions? I'm thinking about buying one and I wanted some feedback. Thanks, Todd

Posted by: T.O. double D. at November 4, 2004 02:21 PM

My Rip Cutl Ultimate Elasto Zip Free 4/3 is busting apart after 1.5 seasons.

Sweet suit but the material Elastomax is totally done.

Any recommedations out there? Warmth vs. Price anyone know of any deals out there (wrong time to shop of course!)

Always gone Oneill/ Rip Curl but been dissapointed last 5 years or so w/ Oneill


Posted by: swiss cheese at November 4, 2004 02:31 PM

Aqua had Hotline 25% off a coupla weeks ago, I scored one. Its TOO warm.

Get ready freddy for the next two days....its gonna be overhead and clean

Posted by: blakestah at November 4, 2004 02:37 PM

i grew up with delmore. i heard he's back in shell beach working at a winery and smoking more weed than snoop and dre combined. he boogies but is really low pro, after he quit as editor of Bodyboarding Magazine he went underground. supposedly he wrote a novel. what's your name? email me. alex@805bbr.com


Posted by: bbr at November 4, 2004 02:37 PM

VFWs update. watched it for about 20 min on my way to do shit. looked good at times, horrible at times. saw one guy get one wave in about 20min. fast fast fast barrels. Sloat looked good, paddle looked bad, offshores so strong made it look tough to get into the waves, most guys out on 9'0+s

Posted by: dsx at November 4, 2004 02:39 PM

Swiss- stay away from the new o'neills- warm and comfortable but fall apart quickly!

Maybe if the camera is gone I will get more done as I won't keep checking it to see what I am missing- it looks good there right now- and I am just plain stuck at work and there is no way out.

Last minute plug for those not headed to the Roxy:

Fillmore tonight- the Enorchestra opens for Camper van Beethoven.

My girlfriend and a bandmate recorded a complete reworking of "Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy" Eno's seminal 1974 record which influenced everyone from Bauhaus to Mr. Mclaren. Eno says of the reworking, "... I played the CD. It was an unexpectedly moving experience.... I wanted to say again how much I enjoyed hearing your version of Taking Tiger Mountain. You made beautiful music of my cold experiments."

Brian Eno can't be wrong, eh? they will reprise this again athe Bottom of the Hill December third.

God, I want to get out of here!

Posted by: goodmorning at November 4, 2004 02:48 PM

Hey all, I just lost an employee and need to hire someone part time who has at least a low level apprentice carpenter's experience. Pez worked with me briefly and I don't think that we damaged him in any permanent way. I have the need for a two week commitment that should start next week sometime and then resume in January in a three or more day a week capacity.


Posted by: goodmorning at November 4, 2004 02:59 PM

"First of all, this election was definitely rigged. I have no doubt about it. It's a statistical impossibility that Bush got 8 million more votes than he got last time. In 2000, he got 15 million votes from right-wing Christians, and there are approximately 19 million of them in the country. They were eager to get the other 4 million. That was pretty much Karl Rove's strategy to get Bush elected.

But given Bush's low popularity ratings and the enormous number of new voters -- who skewed Democratic -- there is no way in the world that Bush got 8 million more votes this time. I think it had a lot to do with the electronic voting machines. Those machines are completely untrustworthy, and that's why the Republicans use them. Then there's the fact that the immediate claim of Ohio was not contested by the news media -- when Andrew Card came out and claimed the state, not only were the votes in Ohio not counted, they weren't even all cast.

I would have to hear a much stronger argument for the authenticity, or I should say the veracity, of this popular vote for Bush before I'm willing to believe it. If someone can prove to me that it happened, that Bush somehow pulled 8 million magic votes out of a hat, OK, I'll accept it. I'm an independent, not a Democrat, and I'm not living in denial.

And that's not even talking about Florida, which is about as Democratic a state as Guatemala used to be. The news media is obliged to make the Republicans account for all these votes, and account for the way they were counted. Simply to embrace this result as definitive is irrational. But there is every reason to question it ... I find it beyond belief that the press in this formerly democratic country would not have made the integrity of the electoral system a front page, top-of-the-line story for the last three years. I worked and worked and worked to get that story into the media, and no one touched it until your guy did.

I actually got invited to a Kerry fundraiser so I could talk to him about it. I raised the issue directly with him and with Teresa. Teresa was really indignant and really concerned, but Kerry just looked down at me -- he's about 9 feet tall -- and I could tell it just didn't register. It set off all his conspiracy-theory alarms and he just wasn't listening.

Talk to anyone from a real democracy -- from Canada or any European country or India. They are staggered to discover that 80 percent of our touch-screen electronic voting machines have no paper trail and are manufactured by companies owned by Bush Republicans. But there is very little sense of outrage here. Americans for a host of reasons have become alienated from the spirit of the Bill of Rights and that should not be tolerated. "

Posted by: at November 4, 2004 03:12 PM

definitely not OB right now... though there are a few brazzos out killing it in local waters.

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 03:13 PM

"With Iraq burning, WMD missing, jobs at Herbert Hoover levels, flu shots nowhere to be found, gas prices through the roof, and Osama bin Laden back on the scene looking tanned, rested and ready to rumble, this should have been a can't-lose election for the Democrats. Especially since they were more unified than ever before, had raised as much money as the Republicans, and were appealing to a country where 55 percent of voters believed we were headed in the wrong direction.

But lose it they did.

So the question inevitably becomes: What now?

Already there are those in the party convinced that, in the interest of expediency, Democrats need to put forth more "centrist" candidate -- i.e., Republican-lite candidates -- who can make inroads in the all-red middle of the country.

I'm sorry to pour salt on raw wounds, but isn't that what Tom Daschle did? He even ran ads showing himself hugging the president! But South Dakotans refused to embrace this lily-livered tactic. Because, ultimately, copycat candidates fail in the way "me-too" brands do.

Unless the Democratic Party wants to become a permanent minority party, there is no alternative but to return to the idealism, boldness and generosity of spirit that marked the presidencies of FDR and JFK and the short-lived presidential campaign of Bobby Kennedy.

Otherwise, the Republicans will continue their winning ways, convincing tens of millions of hardworking Americans to vote for them even as they cut their services and send their children off to die in an unjust war.

Democrats have a winning message. They just have to trust it enough to deliver it. This time they clearly didn't.

Posted by: arianna huffington at November 4, 2004 03:15 PM

so amped on this weekend, sick waves and all my buddies and family up here. luckily for you guys there's only a couple dudes who boogie, but we're gonna be on it the next two days. i can't wait to show my brother a real day at obreezy, every time he's been up here it's been small. hopefully i don't get nose drips as i'm saying my vows.

Posted by: bbr at November 4, 2004 03:15 PM

kdalle, i wonder? i heard that a long time ago so maybe im tripping, but i liked the idea of jimi looking at surfing and getting all inspired. i do want to see that movie though, mostly cause rick griffin has a part. its hard to find eh?

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 03:16 PM

whoa.. vows??

right on bbr! mazel tov!

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 03:19 PM

hey bbr congrats man!!

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 03:19 PM

I checked the south end around 2:00 and it was BEAUTIFUL out there! DOH to TOH maybe but only the guys out there know for sure. It was big and sweet! 20 ft high spray coming off the lips of the waves. Straight up offshore in a solid way.

Regardless of riding a wave, I would have loved to sit out there and just awe at the power! What an unreal sight. I haven't been this stoked since Tuesday and I didn't even paddle out......

Posted by: Kaiser at November 4, 2004 03:20 PM

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 03:26 PM

the above photos from sargesdailysurf.com

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 03:29 PM

Congrats BBR - Wheres the reception party.. (jk)

Posted by: traut at November 4, 2004 03:29 PM

Just what is the rule with jet skis at ocean beach?

.....anyone?....Bueler? .....anyone?

Posted by: see doo at November 4, 2004 03:33 PM


you miss the point. words here are saved and remain available for later reference.

and those spots weren't empty all day, nor did the conditions go to waste, i assure you.

Posted by: smc at November 4, 2004 03:34 PM

Posted by: j at November 4, 2004 03:40 PM

goodmorning- I may be your man, as I'm moving to the city this weekend and have several piecemeal jobs that kinda suck. Looking to bail and do something interesting...contact jjzotz@yahoo.com


Posted by: zotz at November 4, 2004 03:41 PM

thanks. the reception is in the presidio and the wedding is at st. agnes on masonic. off to france for two weeks starting sunday. i might try to talk the lady into a couple days of surf while we're there but we shall see about that...

Posted by: bbr at November 4, 2004 03:41 PM

I defense of Kdalle, i have seen guys out once at pompano and it was grinding. good for them. 99 times out of 100 all those spots are empty.

Posted by: dsx at November 4, 2004 03:42 PM

which hotline suit did ya get? Too warm sound about right

Anyone like the Xcels?

Posted by: s cheeze at November 4, 2004 03:47 PM

smc-I do not miss the point. Ask anyone that knows my history and you will find out that I have been most aggressive in trying to keep a lid on exposure. But you know what, it doesn't matter anymore. With site's like E's, Blakestah, Surfhumor, Surfline, Surfpulse, NOAA, cell phones, cams and on and on...

Everyone's got an alibi too.

Critical mass has been achieved and you're all responsible.

BTW, Scott Creek had about 6 surfers out when I passed it on the way back north. 'kay?

Keep surfing no matter what.

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 03:51 PM

I think KDalle has been surfing 30 years and seen the crowds come and go.

I trust his judgement and discretion on the topic of secret spots.

Carry on as you were.

Posted by: tominator at November 4, 2004 03:52 PM

Lerm.. this is where you'll be in a few weeks!!

Posted by: e at November 4, 2004 04:01 PM

Yay bbr! May you score marital tubes! Wait, somehow that doesn't sound right...

Swiss, I recently got a 4/3 Xcel "Infiniti"; it's a little but not a lot warmer than my bottom-o'-line 4/3 Quiksilver. It's been fine for OB lately. It seems to hold less water, though; I feel lighter in it.

Posted by: klooless at November 4, 2004 04:03 PM

Saw some guy leaving the water with a leash and only the first foot of his board and a strip of fiberglass. Looked like he got trampled. It's fucking insanely beautiful out there right now, long lines, quick drops and pitching lips. It is so fantastic.

I'm going to listen to Amy Goodman at Stanford....do y'all know about her program, Democracy Now? It's an excellent source for alternative media: Monday to Friday, on 94.1 FM, on at 6:00 AM and 9:00 am. Get edumakated.

Ride the king's highway baby!

Posted by: hee hee at November 4, 2004 04:07 PM

lerm's going to be caught inside in a few weeks?? i think i'll be there lots this weekend.

Posted by: cgl at November 4, 2004 04:17 PM

congrats bbr! hope you have a great day and honeymoon.

my wife surfed for the first time on our honeymoon - in british columbia. she caught & rode a little 1-footer at tofino within 20 minutes of going out, and i was quite the proud hubbie. turns out that it was a bait & switch, though - she lost her appetite for surfboards after getting konked on the head in costa rica a few months later. but she still seems happy to enable my addiction - for example, she went to aqua today to buy us tix for tonight's flic. maybe she'll take up bogieboarding...

Posted by: loon at November 4, 2004 04:25 PM

Swiss-I'm happy with my Xcel also.

tominator-This year it's 40 for me! 30 in California, 10 in New Jersey.

bbr-good for you.

Jet Ski rules at Ocean Beach are governed by the Coast Guard. San Francisco is not part of the Monterey Bay Marine Sanctuary. Can not come within 500 feet of swimmers or surfers except for rescue.

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 04:26 PM


Emailed you , thanks.

John Peel is dead!

For real.

Posted by: goodmorning at November 4, 2004 04:27 PM

Democracy Now! is a great show. Down in the SC area you can check it at 9am on 88.9 and 90.3 on your FM dial.

Posted by: steve-o at November 4, 2004 04:36 PM

the spots kdalle named used to be "our" (meaning old natives) little secrets. the intricacies of them deciphered only through expereince. i was bummed to read kdalle's calling out of them. after all, i would most certainley not name his avenue/sandbar du jour in any circumstance.

kdalle, none of the sites you refernced EVER mention a word about the places you did.
it's magic when you can catch a spot like you named with only 6 guys these days. if 1000 dudes read that only 6 guys where thier. how many of the 1000 will be on it tomorrow? espicially with your stamp of approval? c'mon keep it real, keep it quiet.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 4, 2004 04:43 PM

Move time! OH YEAH!

Let's celebrate with a pix:

Posted by: Kaiser at November 4, 2004 04:43 PM

not nearly as big as OB...but very fun. A frame grab of after my session.

Posted by: jdz at November 4, 2004 04:46 PM

bbr, congrats. i surfed on my honeymoon and am still happily married. i say she knows what she's getting into. go get some!

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 4, 2004 04:48 PM


I surf at Sloat most of the time. There, the secret is out. Every spot I mentioned is right on the highway. Everyone is mentioned in Bank Wright's 25 year old book fer chrissakes. No secrets there.

BTW, I have never seen more than maybe 10 guys out at Scott Creek. Even on the best days. Perhaps if I mention enough secret spots it will siphon some of the masses that have been going to Sloat.

So mentioning names is causing crowds but cams and predictions and cell phones and blogs and photo sites are not?

Telling someone that the surf will be great in San Francisco tomorrow is far more likely to cause a crowd than saying the word Pacheco.

Showing pictures of the better days in San Francisco is far more likely to attract migrants than mentioning the word Sloat.

Cams showing live shots of surf "somewhere in San Francisco" is far more likely to increase crowds than mentioning the word Kirkham.

So let's have a group catharsis. Everyone should name where the surf. 'Kay.

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 05:13 PM

has anyone else noticed the US Army advertisement on surf-news.com? doesn't this seem a little strange? does this mean he supports everything going on with this administration? does he really want surfers to enlist??
the latest military adverts have shown themselves in many activities that I care about. and although these tactics have been going on forever, i don't appreciate them trying to persuade surfers, skaters, snowboarders, etc. to enlist. i guess i'd just like to believe that people who partake in these sports are enlightened enough to know better...

Posted by: rza at November 4, 2004 05:18 PM

oh man you should spend some time in orange county..

Posted by: at November 4, 2004 05:24 PM

I guess my superpowers have lost thier strength. I thought the token Reef shot would increase the peace and bring stoke to all....

I am gonna be like Tiger Woods now and not have an opinion on the matter.

Good evening! See ya all on the soup tomorrow.

Posted by: Kaiser at November 4, 2004 05:36 PM

wow, kdalle, you are really putting the cards on the table. or opening the worm can. or something. and shit, you deserve it for going out today. but it is odd for this conversation to start again on a day with swell...

anyway, for what it's worth, i thought that the primary and generally-accepted naming rule was to wait for conditions to change before posting any spot-specific info. maybe the swell is dying enough already for kdalle to avoid violating that rule?

the other rule that i've been following is that it is ok to be spot-specific with relatively known places that are far away from OB, even if the session was in the last 24hrs. but we never defined what distance = far -- so again, kdalle's comments may not violate that one either.

i must admit that i have used spot-specific info garnered from this site to help me decide which aves to check at ob.

just to complicate things further -- does anyone think there should be more rigid rules re: naming spots in posted photos? seems like that's the practice, but also seems like a bit of a double-standard.

Posted by: loon at November 4, 2004 05:37 PM

SLOAT, at close to high noon.Me and one other out.I saw him take off on a 15 foot wave and he saw me take off on a similar wave. Thats my report . I hope it wont get crowded here in this city of millions.Theres no secret that O.B. keeps.

Posted by: fade-away at November 4, 2004 05:50 PM

loon-apparently there are no rules anymore, just opinions. I will now return to my stealth position. 'Kay?

Posted by: kdalle at November 4, 2004 05:56 PM

who gives a fuck! if your worried about crowds you should have surfed today cause there were none. share waves.

Posted by: jambi at November 4, 2004 06:12 PM

kdalle - next time pass on the bitter pill. Pop in some Workingman's, relax, and see you in the Aves in the morning if your car remembers the way to chez friend #1.

Posted by: blakestah at November 4, 2004 06:42 PM

Please stop. Separate the problems with work and home and politics from surfing. Few of your family, friends or coworkers will ever understand the exhaustion, fear, rush, and beauty of surfing.

Posted by: Bruce at November 4, 2004 07:45 PM

i am eating sushi from ***** *******. it's a hard to get to spot none of you city slickers will ever eat at!! i'm washing it down with a beer from a secret spot way north, a **** ***** ***** *****!!! ahhhhhh yeah.

to all you watching broke down, or standing in line watching the steam of your breath hit the cool air, I AM JEALOUS. insert movie review here _________________

democracy now, cool radio show btw.

a'ight, back to dinner.

Posted by: j at November 4, 2004 08:51 PM

Movie review: very enjoyable. Lots of small to medium waves, a few big tow-ins. A running theme of passing "the way of being" onto the young; fun clips of local young'uns surfing exotic spots on left-behind boards and board-pieces. I really don't have much to compare it to, but people applauded at the end.

Posted by: klooless at November 4, 2004 09:29 PM

back at work after broken down theory

4 out of 5 hats

better than thicker than water. lots of slater. lots of body surfing, slater is good at that too. a little too jack johnsony for me. sick left in what apears to be oregon (j). cool storys. mellow crowd.

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 09:30 PM

ya klooless!

Posted by: bagel at November 4, 2004 09:31 PM

Ha! Barely beat you to it, bagel! Hey, and I won a t-shirt in the raffle! The surf better hold up - - - tomorrow I'm definitely pulling all sorts of 360 roundhouse air barrels and whatnot.

Posted by: klooless at November 4, 2004 10:23 PM

Hey, after yesterday's post of how disgusted everyone is from the election, i think there is some "green" room about everything. Everyone thinks they are so sad but I think that is unrealistic. I know this post is outdated by a day, but come on,.... buckle down and be an american. I don't believe in everything Bush does, but his decisions are sincere, living in NYC i believe things are safer. Am I a surfer, you better believe it, but war is entilted at some times. It is my opinion that too many of you use your liberty as an excuse as some platform to disagree. Of course i disgree with environmental issues, but his war choice is dignified. I am a true reader of this page, and part-take in many of the same situations, but you guys are not fair. You speak of drugs, and the human spirit that is America but it seems that you forget where that came from. America has always fought for justice and protection from those that oppose us. In my opinion, most democrats were looking for another person to defeat Bush but Kerry was not the man for the job. My father fought in Vietnam, and when he came home, all he did is hide from those who opposed the war, that is ridiculous!
There is a place for all the issues.

E- i sincerely apologize for the political speak, especially for this page, but it is the sacrifice of individuals before us that makes it so easy for us to enjoy what is our normal day.

Of course the world could use inmprovement, but we will still live as we hoped we would, as we hoped our children would. Things will improve, regardless of who is in office, because it is inevitable and there is enough people calling for change that will not be ignored.

I know I am a minority tonight, but i hope that there is a chance for some unity on this page. Also, I am not a regular poster, but a regular reader.

E -, I know your feelings, but I just wish there was a compromise between human being's explaining their thoughts, then comparing them to the incumbent.

Just saying that some things are right and some things are wrong.

I love the page and the fun and stoke it provides me. Thanks for all the pics and stories, just consider other points of view, it can be helpful in the future.

Posted by: tsm at November 4, 2004 10:26 PM

Whaaat, I missed you, klooless and bagel! Fun movies. Myself, hiding out in civilian clothing. I thought that long left was Chile? Or was that another left?

Gah, out way too late.

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at November 5, 2004 12:22 AM

Ha, sorry for the drunk republican post. Im a spaz

Posted by: tsm at November 5, 2004 06:17 AM


we can agree to dis-agree on this. i'd never spew names like that on this blog. i grew up in sc county and can tell you even 20 yrs ago your numbers are a bit light. love the bank wright book, but don't publish it's contents. STOKE & PEACE from dawnie cube land.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at November 5, 2004 06:52 AM


i understand. you did not miss the point. you ignored it. okay.

while that is your perogative, i do not share your opinion.

and i find it somewhat careless and selfish of you to, on the basis of your opinion, take actions
that negatively impact others.

you may have given up, but some of us haven't. just because YOUR home beach is fully exploited,
widely reported on, and has a web-cam pointed at it doesn't excuse your uninvited public observations
on conditions at several locations that otherwise, relatively few people will make the drive to.

Posted by: smc at November 5, 2004 08:59 AM

there are no lefts in oregon. hell, there are no rights. in fact, oregon doesn't even border the ocean. what are you guys talking about?

Posted by: j at November 5, 2004 10:18 AM

I dropped into a 10 second barrel at the jetty yesterday morning.

You all missed it.

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Your world sucks.

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